Fast Food Strikes Go Viral: Workers Expected to Protest Low Wages in 35 Cities Thursday

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People gather outside of a Wendy's restaurant as part of a one day strike calling for higher wages for fast food workers in New York, July 29, 2013.

A growing movement among fast food workers to demand higher wages is expected to gain momentum this Thursday as strikes and protests against the country’s biggest restaurant chains spread to the South and the West Coast.

Low-wage workers at fast food restaurants like McDonald’s and retailers such as Macy’s are gearing up for a nationwide strike just before Labor Day weekend. The striking workers are demanding the right to unionize and at least $15 an hour in pay, more than double the current national minimum wage of $7.25. Organizers say Thursday’s strikes could touch as many as 35 cities.

“These companies that own these fast food restaurants, they make way too much money off the backs of the employees,” says Dearius Merritt, a 24-year-old worker at Church’s Chicken in Memphis who earns $13 an hour and plans to take part in his first strike Thursday. “I’m in the store every day with these workers that make $7.25…If I’m 30 years old and this is what I have to do to survive, then I deserve a living wage off of it.”

The rumblings against the long-standing economics of fast food began last November in New York, when about 200 restaurant workers went on strike in a one-day protest. By July the movement had ballooned to include thousands of workers across seven other cities, including Chicago, Detroit, and Kansas City. Now, with workers in places like Los Angeles, Memphis, and Raleigh getting involved—with extensive financial backing from the Service Employees International Union—organizers and labor experts expect this week’s strike to dwarf previous protests.

(MORE: Fast Food Strikes: Unable to Unionize, Workers Borrow Tactics From ‘Occupy’)

“It’s absolutely going to continue to grow,” says Steven Ashby, a professor at the University of Illinois School of Labor and Employment Relations. “I see no signs from all the people I’ve talked with that it’s going to falter. At this point it hasn’t reached its peak yet. The energy of the workers, their passion, their commitment, is very, very high. They basically feel like, ‘We’ve got nothing to lose.’”

Low pay for fast-food workers is nothing new, but a tough job market following the recession has led to more positions behind the cash register being occupied by family breadwinners instead of teenagers. According to a recent NBC News report, teens now comprise 16% of the fast food industry’s workers, down from 25% a decade ago.

“Because of the difficulty of getting jobs in general…for people with relatively modest education levels, you have a lot of people working in these companies who are trying to support a family based upon their earnings alone,” says Ronald Ehrenberg, a professor of industrial and labor relations and economics at Cornell University. “That’s very, very difficult to do.”

So far, protesters have had only tiny victories. Jonathan Westin, who helped organize New York’s first fast food strike as the executive director of New York Communities for Change, says some local workers have seen wage increases of 25 to 50 cents per hour. Ashby says some Chicago strikers have also gotten higher wages. And a few restaurants have suffered on the days of strikes—a May walkout in Seattle forced multiple fast food chains to close for the day.

(MORE: McDonald’s and the Fate of the Middle Class)

On the whole, though, fast food corporations and franchises aren’t convinced that they need to double their base pay. Officials at the National Restaurant Association, the industry’s lobbying arm, point out that only 5% of restaurant employees earn the federal minimum wage and that 7 out of 10 of fast-food workers earning an entry-level wage are under the age of 25. In a statement Burger King noted that 99% of its locations in the U.S. are owned by franchisees who make independent hiring and firing decisions. McDonald’s said the organization aims to offer competitive pay and benefits to employees. A former CEO of the company has argued that increasing the minimum wage to $15 would “absolutely” kill jobs.

Experts are skeptical that a $15 per hour base wage is likely to be implemented. With almost 2.4 million fast food workers employed in the United States, the number striking is still relatively miniscule. Getting a huge number of people to abandon their posts would be a challenge because they could be subject to immediate firing for missing work as non-union employees.  But less dramatic results, like smaller raises from individual franchises and perhaps a modest increase to the minimum wage, might be attainable. If the strikes continue to grow in scale—it’s already the biggest labor movement in the history of the fast food industry—there will be more pressure on fast food companies and even legislators to make some kind of concession to workers. “This doesn’t end at the strike,” says Caroline Durocher, a Subway employee in Seattle who plans to walk out on Thursday. “We’re going to keep going. We’re not going to shut up.”

578 comments
incomptonla
incomptonla

Only happening because of all the college grads that are working for them since they cannot find higher paying jobs! Now they want to F things up for the rest of us by increasing prices!!!

JacobDavid1
JacobDavid1

I don't get it.  McDonalds and other fast food jobs are supposed to be training grounds for young people or people who want to earn some extra money.  What people don't get is how expensive it is for these franchise owners to pay $15.00 per hour and not just the salary.  For every worker the employer pays payroll taxes based on income, that could come to as much as 1/3 of their salary.  Profit margins are not that high especially when you have to pay the franchise fees to the corporate company.  If this movement somehow manages to be successful, then the franchisee will just have to lay people off.  I owned two frachises, employed people so I am speaking from experience.  This will backfire big time as you cannot demand things from people who cannot meet those demands.

poopmenot
poopmenot

At $15 an hour McDonald's will automate their whole kitchen with a couple of humans to watch over the whole operation. 

aielloj3
aielloj3

This is unbelievable, people wanting $15 for a starter job. These fast food places are supposed to be there to help high school students and college students make some money while attending class. I, myself, worked at McDonald's for 3 years, best job I have ever had, but it's not saying the most because I am only a recent college graduate. With that said, I graduated in May of 2013 walking out of college with a job, which I was readily excited for and appreciative of the pay increase because I worked my ass of for what little money I did make at McDonald's. But I will tell you now, that even with an Associates and a Bachelors degree under my belt that I didn't make quite the $15/hr that these workers are demanding. Yeah you may be worth more, but you have to be willing to put in the same effort as the rest of us to get the higher wage. McDonald's can turn into a nice career, I have seen it, but a crew member/trainer and even manager spot isn't meant to be. I will be extremely disappointed if this passes and these workers get what they are asking for. It is sending the wrong message to generations now and future generations. It shows that all we would have to do is whine and throw a hissy fit and we can get more money, that's messed up. Hard work gets you what you want, not who can hold out with a temper tantrum longer holding a decorative sign.

DanielMcCuen
DanielMcCuen

Fire them all. Plenty of hard working college and high school students looking for a job. It isn't supposed to be a career, just a starting point.

shandi1
shandi1

Why am I in college earning a degree to make more money, if I can just go to work at a fast food chain! I think as cost of living goes up, of course they should get a raise, I totally understand that but what about those of us who are working toward a degree? We have to go through at LEAST 2 years of college to make the kind of money they are asking for just by flipping burgers! Come on!!

Kingdo_Goodbomber
Kingdo_Goodbomber

this "movement" is a joke.  A carnival show.  There were twenty organizers in Seattle and they could only lure two employees from a nearby bakery.  Fail.  In St. Louis they had to have the cops called because of belligerence.  I watched a video and the store was full of activists and organizers and only ONE actual worker.  LOL WHAT A JOKE!

thetruth1234
thetruth1234

I was working for mcdonalds. I quit about two months ago. They want you to work so hard and only bring home 300 every two weeks. I didnt see my kids that much. And also they was failing in school. I told myself I cant do it no more. So I thought to myself im better off living off the government. And go to school full time. Me and my kids are doing good in school. And im going to have a promising career in few years. Working at mcdonalds you will get no where

HenryThoreau1
HenryThoreau1

Costco attracted high-quality employees by offering better-than-average wages. It retained the best employees by providing rapid wage growth and career advancement opportunities. When we first visited the company in 2005, starting wages at Costco in the United States were $10 an hour for a full-time entry-level cashier, $11 an hour for meat cutters, and $15 an hour for truck drivers. At the time, the federal minimum wage was $5.15. It was only in 2009, four years later, that national wages for these positions had caught up. By then, average hourly wages in the United States across all levels of experience were $9.15 for cashiers, $11.01 for meat cutters, and $14.96 for truck drivers. Costco was able to choose the best possible applicants

http://iveybusinessjournal.com/topics/the-organization/how-businesses-can-profit-from-raising-compensation-at-the-bottom#.UiN2VD-KJGd

darksear
darksear

Raising the minimum wage does not help those who earn minimum wage.  It will just double inflation and and move more families past the poverty line.  Do you think that every job will have a corresponding raise?  Or that banks will compensate you for the lost value of your savings?  Raising the minimum wage increases their costs and devalues our currency. In response there will be fewer jobs, money in savings will be worth half of what it was, and our economy will continue to weaken. Why is that so hard to comprehend?  The value of our currency is not based off how much gold, silver, or other precious metals or gems that our government has.  It is based on the perceived strength and robustness of our economy.  If anything the minimum wage should be lowered.  

WJM980
WJM980

The idea of unionizing fast food workers is laughable. What leveraging power would leaders of such a union have when you could pull anyone off the street to do these jobs? Answer...absolutely none.

AustinRayNewhart
AustinRayNewhart

Try doubling the minimum wage of people who create minimal-priced things and have no education, and then see what inflation really means. Everything else will go up as a result of one of the biggest industries in the US going up. And try buying, preparing, selling, and paying the employee for those dollar-menu things, then turning a profit. It'd become the $5 menu.

AprilLee
AprilLee

Again...Just my opinion.... so I am hearing about fast food restaurants going on strike for higher wages....really....like the world could not live without fast food....how much should someone be paid to flip burgers or have attitudes towards customers. I am not trying to be funny or mean, but aren't those jobs designed for high schoolers....and if a person in their adulthood choses to work there..., why complain about the pay. Everyone was afforded the same opportunities, regardless if they got pregnant in high school, dropped out, went to jail, etc. Why are they demanding more money for the little work that is performed.....I went to college and I know people who didn't, but they did what they had to in order to create a better life for themselves and their offsprings.....Am I wrong when I say the majority of people complaining are the same ones on welfare, getting $300-$800 in foodstamps, getting child support, and up in the club and nail place every week. Why should they reap the benefits of what college and technical schools have provided for others.....So if wages increase for them....we should boycott until they get their butts off of welfare and require them to have to get a degree in fast foodology.......again, just my opinion.....

HenryThoreau1
HenryThoreau1

Let America Be America Again Let America be America again.
Let it be the dream it used to be.
Let it be the pioneer on the plain
Seeking a home where he himself is free.

(America never was America to me.)

Let America be the dream the dreamers dreamed-
Let it be that great strong land of love
Where never kings connive nor tyrants scheme
That any man be crushed by one above.

(It never was America to me.)

O, let my land be a land where Liberty
Is crowned with no false patriotic wreath,
But opportunity is real, and life is free,
Equality is in the air we breathe.

(There's never been equality for me,
Nor freedom in this "homeland of the free.")

Say, who are you that mumbles in the dark?
And who are you that draws your veil across the stars?

I am the poor white, fooled and pushed apart,
I am the Negro bearing slavery's scars.
I am the red man driven from the land,
I am the immigrant clutching the hope I seek-
And finding only the same old stupid plan
Of dog eat dog, of mighty crush the weak.

I am the young man, full of strength and hope,
Tangled in that ancient endless chain
Of profit, power, gain, of grab the land!
Of grab the gold! Of grab the ways of satisfying need!
Of work the men! Of take the pay!
Of owning everything for one's own greed!

I am the farmer, bondsman to the soil.
I am the worker sold to the machine.
I am the Negro, servant to you all.
I am the people, humble, hungry, mean-
Hungry yet today despite the dream.
Beaten yet today-O, Pioneers!
I am the man who never got ahead,
The poorest worker bartered through the years.

Yet I'm the one who dreamt our basic dream
In the Old World while still a serf of kings,
Who dreamt a dream so strong, so brave, so true,
That even yet its mighty daring sings
In every brick and stone, in every furrow turned
That's made America the land it has become.
O, I'm the man who sailed those early seas
In search of what I meant to be my home-
For I'm the one who left dark Ireland's shore,
And Poland's plain, and England's grassy lea,
And torn from Black Africa's strand I came
To build a "homeland of the free."

The free?

Who said the free? Not me?
Surely not me? The millions on relief today?
The millions shot down when we strike?
The millions who have nothing for our pay?
For all the dreams we've dreamed
And all the songs we've sung
And all the hopes we've held
And all the flags we've hung,
The millions who have nothing for our pay-
Except the dream that's almost dead today.

O, let America be America again-
The land that never has been yet-
And yet must be--the land where every man is free.
The land that's mine--the poor man's, Indian's, Negro's, ME-
Who made America,
Whose sweat and blood, whose faith and pain,
Whose hand at the foundry, whose plow in the rain,
Must bring back our mighty dream again.

Sure, call me any ugly name you choose-
The steel of freedom does not stain.
From those who live like leeches on the people's lives,
We must take back our land again,
America!

O, yes,
I say it plain,
America never was America to me,
And yet I swear this oath-
America will be!

Out of the rack and ruin of our gangster death,
The rape and rot of graft, and stealth, and lies,
We, the people, must redeem
The land, the mines, the plants, the rivers.
The mountains and the endless plain-
All, all the stretch of these great green states-
And make America again!

Langston Hughes

HenryThoreau1
HenryThoreau1

Funnytotalkto, It is funny that people like yourself only know how to try and win arguments by calling names and putting down every working class person in the entire country.This makes you a big man. Shows you’re important.Makes you feel real good doesn’t it. Well, Unlike you I have done the research and it is more likely that the minimum wage should move to 10.50 to keep pace with inflation. And I used the argument of the CEO and Bus Driver because the CEO at Disney World does nothing worth 70 million.But the bus drive is crucial to keeping the entire operation producing money. But I know the working class guy is disposable and should be treated like crap by his superiors so guy like you can feel real good about yourself.Pathetic.

h.legna
h.legna

For those of you complaining about minimum wage at fast food companies, I have a suggestion:  Go out there and set up your own burger joint and YOU  pay your employees the $15.00 per hour you  think they deserve as a so called living wage.  Put your money where your mouth is. THEN report back to us and tell us how you fared.  !!!!!!!!!!!!!

HenryThoreau1
HenryThoreau1

The CEO of Disney World makes 70 million a year a professional Bus Driver at Disney World makes 10 bucks an hour and has to have professional certification.
When I was a young Business student I thought an increase in minimum wage was a bad thing. As an older wiser more educated MBA I realize large companies like Disney World pay professionals what uneducated workers should make and companies like McDonald's pay wages that are so low a single mother is better off not working. I am sorry to say it but large companies rarely do the right thing for customers or employees. So yes pay these people a living wage. The unions are in bed with the companies and no longer fight for workers. Go get it, protest the entire year go get your 15 buck an hour.

Army12Monkeys
Army12Monkeys

If you want to make $15+/hr become a real chef, or part of management. You have the job that was intended for a high school/ college students. Being a burger flipper is not a career.

Dearius Merritt, "If I’m 30 years old and this is what I have to do to survive, then I deserve a living wage off of it"

Dearius, if this is what you are doing when you are 30, I have no sympathy for you. And no, you do not deserve more than minimum wage for dropping chicken in the fryer. Hell, next thing you know people on welfare are going to start asking the Gov for six figures.

TheJapanese should create some robotic arm that can replace these workers. Co's wont have to worry about paying emplyee benefits, and customers won't have to worry about someone putting extra "stuff" in their food. If robotic arms can assemble automobiles, why not have them assemple our fastfood as well. Walk up to the ordering screen, enter what you want and how you want it, and a fleet of robotic arms do the rest, perfection on every order. No more complaining about I didn't ask for this or that, etc.

wjsobo1
wjsobo1

   Is there anybody that knows what raising the minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour will do to the over-all economy for sure?

No!   Inflation is controlled by supply and demand. So inflation is not an excuse. Besides, inflation affects low wage workers more than anyone. So if you are complaining about inflation, get a better job. Does it lose jobs?  Ha. How can injecting billions of dollars into a struggling economy lose jobs. That's Bunk.  What are businesses afraid of competition? Are they afraid their going to lose their stranglehold on consumers? Yes, there is questions. We have to RESPECT LABOR. Labor is NOT A GIFT

from the fortunate to our country, it is a right our country given to all.   Let's get that straight. If you don't believe that you are sourly mistaken.

JamesKent
JamesKent

personal responsiblity is almost non-existent in this culture. people want more money because they are having 2 to 3 damn kids before the age of 21. of course mcdonalds wages cant support that... it was never intended to. it was for snot nosed teenagers getting a beginning job. its not mcdonalds fault you decided to have 2 kids and not go to college.

toronto3721
toronto3721

Low wage lowers the sales for business, kills Jobs and suffocate economy.   Low wage economy is a depressed economy, very bad for everybody.  

MrGrumpButt
MrGrumpButt

I guess nurses (LPNs) better start making $30 starting pay and RN's should be making $50 an hour starting pay. Currently there are plenty of LPN jobs that start at or below $15 an hour, and that actually requires training and involves life and death rather than hamburgers and fries. Certified Nurse Aids ALREADY make less than fast food workers in most parts of the country, and that too requires actual training and certifications. What a bunch of entitled kids. I guess we need to raise CNA wages to $20-25 an hour starting pay. Nursing homes already often operate on little or no profit, so that means the states will just have to start paying more to make up that difference. Teachers often don't make $15 an hour, so we better bump up their pay also. Better increase our military pay tables also. Before you know it, after the chain reaction of wage increases and the costs of everything jumps up to compensate, we'll be right back to where we are now. The fact is that fast food work is not worthy of $15 hour. The job doesn't require a high school education, and it doesn't even require any certifications. $15 is way out of line.

thetruth1234
thetruth1234

When I started working there. My plan was to quit my other job because mcdonalds have better opportunities. I didnt mind starting over because I knew I have leadership skills to advance to manager

Within a year. So I sat back and watched. The customers looked down on us. The managers had to deal with a lot. Then I found out managers dont get that much. No its not worth it

HenryThoreau1
HenryThoreau1

@darksear

Thank you, if you have more support please post. I think we have some good support to the contrary but I value opposing arguments that are fact based and don’t slander the poor.Again thank you.

 

HenryThoreau1
HenryThoreau1

@DianneShearouseCollins

We should all be thankful,no one is arguing this.The working poor are being rounded up by union leaders. If we don’t offer an alternative these workers have no choice but to go to the Union. And the Union is not going to help them in fact the union will just extort money form the employees and employers.

I came up with The Living Wage Brand is the alternative to unions.Companies like Costco and Amazon are choosing to pay employees higher wages and these companies need to be supported and rewarded for their fair treatment of employees.We can and should channel purchasing power towards them. Support Inflation paced wage not unions.This is an organized social movement that aims to unite companies of like mind whochoose to offer employees Inflation Paced Wage. Currently this is about 10.50.

This is a link https://www.facebook.com/pages/Living-Wage-Brand/396330020490080?skip_nax_wizard=true

PollyLiberale
PollyLiberale

@DianneShearouseCollins- What is the use of having that job if they cannot make enough to even feed their families? Did you know that the average CEO's pay of a fast food chain is 788 times GREATER than their employee's pay? How on earth does that sound okay to you? McDonald's CEO alone made $14 MILLION last year. The people who hoard the money will NEVER have enough. Never. Meanwhile, families are starving. In case you haven't noticed, the price of everything EXCEPT wages has steadily risen in this country. I don't know what more proof you need to be a little more sympathetic to your fellow human.

tom.litton
tom.litton

@AprilLee A lot of them (most of them?) have lost their job in their field and can't find another.  Something like a third have a college degree.  

I would imagine a lot of them (or all of them?) are on welfare, which is why they are complaining.  They don't like being on welfare.  They would rather earn more money, then be supported by others.  Otherwise, why would the complain?

Denying them a living wage will force them to stay on welfare. 

HenryThoreau1
HenryThoreau1

@AprilLee

if we don’t offer an alternative these workers have no choice but to go to the Union. And the Union is not going to help them in fact the union will just extort money form the employees and employers.

tom.litton
tom.litton

@h.legna Are you going to give them the starting money?  

Do you think the US could support 550 million more burger joints?  Do we need a  fast food version of TARP?

HenryThoreau1
HenryThoreau1

@h.legna

You make a good point if as a society we only shop with companies that pay a living wage like “Fair Trade” we would then be supporting corporations that make our world look the way we think it should.Amazon has decided to pay it employees better. Please do some articles on this. I want to support companies who treat their employees as valuable assets not slaves.

darksear
darksear

@HenryThoreau1 

Yes, but a bus driver is not expected to give up their integrity and freedom when the company needs a scapegoat.  The CEO is expected to take the fall for any company wide malfeasance and is therefore compensated accordingly.  A bus driver is just expected to pick up and drop off passengers in the most expeditious and economical way possible.  

funnytotalkto
funnytotalkto

@HenryThoreau1

Liberals always compare the CEO to the worker. You even through in the real valuable bus certification. The CEO are the brains and the bus driver could never do what Disney CEO brings. Growth, profits for investors such as the IRA's and teachers pensions. You are paid what your worth. The 2 are not 1 in the same. There is no way your a MBA anything and you have your values mismatched

tom.litton
tom.litton

@Army12Monkeys Yes it isn't intended to be a career and that's the problem.  That is increasingly what it is being used for, because there are no other jobs available.  So what is your solution?  Have them quite their fast food job and be supported through welfare until something better comes along?  What if it never does?  Why do you want a large population of people to be completely dependent on my tax dollars? 

tom.litton
tom.litton

@wjsobo1Do a google search for "economic study, raising the min wage to $15"  It's a very interesting read.

funnytotalkto
funnytotalkto

@JamesKent 

So true. This amounts to a shake down of the business owners that put up their own capital and brains to run a family business. These workers should be relaced with automated KIOS or Ipads to order the food. They expect way too much from a starter job

wjsobo1
wjsobo1

@JamesKent  Why do u care whether someone else makes 15per hour? What because you're afraid you won't be able to afford the big mac when it goes from 2.00 to 2.40?   Anybody that is willing to work full time in the US should be able to support themselves. Can't this country even do that. Who cares who they are or how many kids they have or what the hell else they do. That is non of my concern. But I am embarrassed  that this country can't pay a wage for someone to live . That's disgraceful.  Everyone that lives in the US deserves to make a living if they are willing to work. There is absolutely no excuse whatsoever that the living wage in the US should be somewhere around 15 dollars per hour depending on the location. Because this country has given the wealthy the opportunity to make their wealth, then they should only be provided that opportunity if the labor workers are provided the opportunity to support themselves.

funnytotalkto
funnytotalkto

@toronto3721 

It is never that simple,however, it is simply an idiotic economic theory you just espoused

toronto3721
toronto3721

@MrGrumpButt  

In Australia, the minimum wage is $16.35, and unemployment rate, Are you Ready,  5.2%

What's the number in USA? You tell me.

HenryThoreau1
HenryThoreau1

@funnytotalkto@HenryThoreau1

You know it has been a long time since I was hungry but I remember the hopeless feeling of being young and homeless. I was a bit lucky, had some help and clawed my way out.I just want to say I am sick of people telling poor people to suck it up. My God Man, not everyone is going to go to college and this does not mean they are less human. You know full well not 1 CEO or I could do the same job for 1 month at that pay.By the way I am very well educated. And I make 40x times the minimum wage.

The only way I know to get ahead is to find a way to create disposable income and save it.This is so easy to tell people but so hard to learn.One must make enough in an 80 hour work week to save 10% or they will never stop the effects of poverty.

 

HenryThoreau1
HenryThoreau1

@wjsobo1@JamesKentIf these CEO can rob us blind then 15 bucks is not to much. 

"The CEO of Disney World makes 70 million a year a professional Bus Driver at Disney World makes 10 bucks an hour and has to have professional certification."
 

 This is the happy place on earth?

HenryThoreau1
HenryThoreau1

@funnytotalkto@toronto3721

I have been reading over these posts and man you love to insult people you disagree with.Seriously learn to make points without calling your opponent names. You keep saying everyone else is wrong well show your work. Where is your research?Fact Inflation would put minimum wage to 10.50. I have no problem hearing your side of an argument.But you’re just a bully. Do you treat for family this way?By the way I am going to Form the Brand “Living Wage” and companies will pay to have this branding on their product. Just like Fair Trade. And if some great person out there wants to take the idea and run with it. Let me know I will help you for free.Its time we stop treating the working poor as trash.

darksear
darksear

@toronto3721 @MrGrumpButt 5.6% as estimated by the Australian Bureau of Statistics.  Of course their standards of "Employed" happen to be regular work of at least an hour a week.  According to third party estimates Australia's unemployment and underemployment rate could be considered as high as 17.5% with 40% of the workforce being part time.  Not the model I would have chosen.  Australia's Official Unemployment Rate is nothing but smoke and mirrors. But, with statistics as other things it depends on how you define things.

JamesKent
JamesKent

@toronto3721 @MrGrumpButt go live in austrailia then. because im sure the problems they have are exactly like ours. i hate comparisons to other countries. why the hell do people still move to the united states then?? opportunity maybe? who the hell knows right? 

tom.litton
tom.litton

@funnytotalkto @tom.litton @wjsobo1 Yes reality has a well known liberal bias.  You don't want to pay attention to actual evidence, when your gut instincts is all that you need.  Unless, of course, your interested in solving problems instead of getting elected.

JamesKent
JamesKent

@toronto3721 @MrGrumpButt also to add, i forgot to mention, we will allow unemployment benefits for up to 2 years. plus extentions, without the person having to do anything! Australia makes your a$$ volunteer for community service. maybe thats not such a bad idea! :) go ahead check their benefits out. united states pays so good for being unemployed you'd be a fool to not stay on it as long as possible. at least in the eyes of a lazy person... nothing wrong with having to be on unemployment but there is no denying that people abuse and ride that train for as long as they can.

JamesKent
JamesKent

@toronto3721 @MrGrumpButt and ill tell you why they should get paid that i australia.. because its f'n expensive!!! buy gas or milk there smart guy. i'd hope for how expensive it is they would pay that much.