Why is Texas Governor Rick Perry in Illinois?

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Like an aging rocker, Texas Governor Rick Perry is currently on the 2013 I’m Coming For Your Jobs tour across America. His first stop: California a couple months ago. This week he’s in Illinois, where he got a nasty reception from public officials. The trips are part of an effort to get businesses from highly taxed and heavily regulated states to relocate down South — but his efforts may fall flat, if recent history is any indication.

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Texas has arguably become one of the few true economic success stories since the recession. The state has an unemployment rate of around 6% and a $9 billion budget surplus, even as many states struggle with 8% and 9% unemployment and severe budget deficits.

The state is run by pro-business Republicans in the state legislature, along with Gov. Perry, who supports low regulation and low taxes. Texas doesn’t have an individual income tax, either. Its minimum wage is lower than other left-leaning states, which keeps labor costs down. Prices for land and housing are low. And the oil and natural gas boom in recent years has kept jobs from leaving the state. The tradeoff for all this, of course: Texas’s relatively flimsy social safety net.

But Perry still isn’t satisfied with business in Texas. The governor sees even more potential if he can just lure corporations away from states that aren’t as friendly to business. The two states he’s visited so far, California and Illinois, rank 50th and 48th, respectively, in a survey of best states for business, according to a recent poll in the Wall Street Journal.

In February, Gov. Perry visited California, a state with high labor costs, high taxes, and heavy environmental regulation, all of which can make it onerous for businesses to set up shop. According to Reuters, Ron Mittelstaedt, chairman and CEO of Waste Connections Inc., moved his waste business from Sacramento, Calif., to The Woodlands, Texas, and was able to build new facilities in 16 months. In California, he told Reuters, it would’ve taken three years due to all the permits required.

This week Gov. Perry is in Illinois, where he’s making the case publicly for businesses to leave the Land of Lincoln. The state has been attempting to fix the worst-funded pension system in the country for years, which is underfunded by $100 billion, according to the Associated Press. That crisis has given Illinois the worst credit rating in the country. On top of that, the state’s personal and corporate income taxes are in the top third in the U.S., according to the Illinois Policy Institute, and both went up dramatically in 2010. On top of all that, the state’s unemployment rate sits at 9.5%.

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Gov. Perry’s economic development excursion has included a speech at a biotechnology convention along with an $80,000 ad campaign. According to The Huffington Post, the radio advertisement ends with the tagline: “You need to get out while there’s still time.”

His visit also comes as investment firm Morgan Stanley released a poll this week showing that 93% of high net worth investors surveyed in Chicago said they were concerned about the state’s financial well-being.

The race to lure businesses away from other states has picked up recently as the economy has shown signs of recovery. According to The Wall Street Journal, a number of less regulated states are stationing recruiters in places like California to entice businesses to move.

But as Perry tries to lure companies to the Lone Star State, his efforts may fall flat. The short-term costs of relocating and the uncertainty a move brings to a business often outweigh any potential long-term benefits from setting up in a more pro-business environment. According to the Public Policy Institute of California, even with California’s history of high taxes and heavy regulation, only 2% of job losses between 1992 and 2006 were due to businesses leaving the state.

102 comments
Uncle_Frank
Uncle_Frank

Luring the worst polluters and abusers of workers to Texas makes sense. Safety and health are at the bottom of priority list when it comes to doing business in Texas. As long as "gub-ment gets out of the way" enabling the job creators to make a profit everything is just great.

ChikuMisra
ChikuMisra

Why wouldn't he be in the wrong state. He is an idiot. He wanted to cut three agencies of govt and couldn't remember the third. What if you had cancer of the brain, lung, and heart. You go to a surgeon, and he gets it out of two of three. Is that acceptable? Texans should feel embarrassed to have this dunce as their leader. Seriously, people like this and Quayle should never have been passed out of high school, never mind national office holders. Bush jr was an idiot too, but not on this scale. By contrast, on the dem side you only get thru on merit and intelligence. Say what you will, the last two dems in White House are a couple of smart men.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

Has anyone pointed out yet, that the only thing Perry is doing is encouraging corporations to go to the States with the least environmental regulation and the worst employee protection systems. As can be seen by the recent Fertilizer Plant explosion the only thing Perry is good at is cutting the standard of living for everyone and allowing companies to pollute and take short cuts with their safety at will with no regards for anything other than their short term profit.

RockHead
RockHead

@Uncle_Frank go back to jacking off to your collection of slime-stained faded Ovomit posters.

RockHead
RockHead

@ChikuMisra another whining liberal c0cksucker who CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!  LOL!

CattleCall
CattleCall

Governors have very little power in Texas. He isn't considered a leader in Texas, and few people in Texas pay much attention to him.  He is an advocate for pro business policies and most of  the people in Texas like a pro business climate, because it benefits folks at all levels.  That is the great thing about the USA, each of the states is different.  So, if  what we have in Texas isn't appealling to you, move to a state that suits you better, like Illinois or California!!.     

Comparing Perry's stumble forgetting the third agency during a prmary debate to a surgeon forgetting to do part of  a procedure is a wild stretch, and shows that your thinking is driven by emotion.  Live in reality.  Tell us what you think about Obama's stumbling in the first presidential debate........I certainly wouldn't make harsh judgements based on one bad debate performance.

MichaelArnim
MichaelArnim

@mantisdragon91 Union guy huh? It shows by your severe lack of respect of those that died. You also are ignorant to say that Texas has the least environmental regulations... we have exceptional water regulations and lead America in solar energy. We have a beautiful state that 1000 people a day are moving to from other states. 

If you want pollution... ck out Ohio (the worst polluted river) or Chicago or Detroit (although that liberal blueprint is almost void of people now). 

FreonSandoz
FreonSandoz

@mantisdragon91 And after the explosion, Perry had the gall to request fast-tracked assistance for cleanup and repairs from the Federal government that he constantly denigrates. He eliminates regulation of corporations, gets more to move to Texas, and cons the rest of the US into paying for the consequences! I say call in the drone strikes and make Texas secede!

SteveDouglass
SteveDouglass

We will forward your lack of condolences and disrepect to the families of the dead in West, Texas. By the way, it was the fertilizer plant, not Rick Perry who was at fault for that. But, as for the rest of your statement, spoken like a true union whiner hack.

mmarks
mmarks

@CattleCall I'm a Texan and you're DEAD WRONG. Rick Perry is a laughingstock and an embarrassment. He's not just pro-business, he's anti-people ... lousy health care, lousy wages, poor worker's comp protection, lousy oversight (remember West, Texas?) and he's dumb as a rock, as evidenced by the fact that he barely earned a four-year degree in farming. But Rick's definitely your go-to guy for guns and prayer meetings! 

ChikuMisra
ChikuMisra

I felt Obama did bad in first debate bc I saw a man who is unhappy and sick of wash dc and its games and idiocy.

As for perry debate flub, if he cannot remember and recite a list of THREE words, that means he is stupid. My mind is very simple like, and that is how I see things.

ChikuMisra
ChikuMisra

I feel, if you are stupid then you are stupid. If you cannot spell potato, it is not because you were perhaps thinking of the Chaucer version spelling of it, as bush sr. Suggested he may have been. Bush sr thinks of stuff like that. His vp and firstborn are not Chaucer types.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@MichaelArnim @mantisdragon91 It doesn't change the fact that you also have some of the lowest safety regulations for your people, that your school boards rewrite books to suit their needs to brainwash children, and that if this plant was actually properly inspected these people would still be alive today.

MichaelArnim
MichaelArnim

@FreonSandoz @mantisdragon91 We'd leave in a New York Minute but they wouldnt let us. What a dream that would be if we could.... Our economy is ranked #10 in the WORLD. Texas is a donor state...we give more than we take from the fed. America would crumble without us. 

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@SteveDouglass The Fertilizer plant that hasn't been inspected in how many years because Texas has a hands off policy on regulating big business? I'm not a Union guy but I seem to remember that the reason Unions became popular is because of corporations putting profits over people safety just like they did at this facility. And if I wanted to honor the families of the dead of this tragedy the best thing I could do is to bring to light the safety violations and the wink nods of the Texas regulators, so that perhaps more of their neighbors and kin folk don't become victims in the future.

RockHead
RockHead

@mmarks @CattleCall maybe you should use your real name: GayBaitCall.  Then leave TX and head to San Fran Sicko.

MichaelArnim
MichaelArnim

@mantisdragon91 @MichaelArnim @mmarks @CattleCall 

As the answer was posted above to your repeat rant, I wont answer it again. 

Entitlements are killing America.
Those that dont have want - but dont want to work for it.
Those that dont have want to take from those that did work for it.
They believe that because they were born, they deserve to have everything they want. 

This is why California is going bankrupt. This is why Detroit went bankrupt. This is why Chicago will go bankrupt. 

I love oil. I love that it offers jobs, money and a great power source. Oil rocks...so does natural gas. And I'm a conservative Christian too.. God I love this state. 

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@MichaelArnim @mantisdragon91 @mmarks @CattleCall The explosion was made much much worse by the fact that 270 tons of Ammonium Nitrate were stored at the location. Its not the entitlement crowd that killing America, its idiot Republicans many of which are from Texas which crashed our economy in 2008, got us into a war in Iraq that well cost us trillions in the years to come, and have done everything possible to stifle innovation and science in the name of the Oil Industry and religion.

MichaelArnim
MichaelArnim

@mantisdragon91 @MichaelArnim @mmarks @CattleCall 

The Texas explosion was most likely due to an electrical fire. Perry or regulators had nothing to do with it. Texas is average in graduating and getting better every year. California has the worst by the way and getting worse every year. 

Texas is also a donor state (we give more to the fed than we take). Why shouldnt we ask for funds to help out on this?? At least Texas puts in...unlike so many other states that just feed off of everyone else.

The entitlement crowd is killing America. 

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@MichaelArnim @mmarks @CattleCall Texas also leads the nation in uneducated people collecting government benefits. When this plant blew up because Texas regulators never bothered to regulate it properly Perry ran to the federal government which he claims that he has no use for with his hand out.

MichaelArnim
MichaelArnim

@mmarks @CattleCall 

Rick Perry has led out state out of a 8.2 billion dollar deficit to a 9 billion dollar surplus while keeping our unemployment around 6%. Texas leads in solar energy and we have exceptional water pollution laws...making Texas a very beautiful state. 

If you dont like Perry for what he's done, move to California and Chicago where they are about to go bankrupt. Sounds like you'd fit perfectly there. 

When will you learn that YOU are responsible for yourself..not the state. If you dont like your working conditions, you get a different job. The market regulates the employer. Texas doesnt believe in handouts and entitlements. MAKE YOUR LIFE WHAT YOU WANT. No one else can do it for you. 

mmarks...are you saying that a farming degree is easy? Your stupidity is astounding. 

RockHead
RockHead

@ChikuMisra alright, we understand that you want to suck off the clown "president".

Now shut the fvck up and go back to jacking off to your slimey collection of faded Ovomit posters.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@MichaelArnim @mantisdragon91 I make fun of Perry because he governs one of the largest and wealthiest states in the union. These guys don't. He should be smarter and more capable than they are. Sadly he isn't.

MichaelArnim
MichaelArnim

@mantisdragon91 @MichaelArnim

It would be helpful if you actually read your own link...

Clay Robison, a spokesman for the Texas State Teachers Association, the state’s teachers’ union, says, “It is not part of the recognized official state curriculum.” (but it is in a bible class)

MichaelArnim
MichaelArnim

@mantisdragon91 @MichaelArnim 

Texas doesnt teach creationism but rather leaves that to their parents..as it should be.  There are no books that teach kids creationism in Texas. Get your facts right. 

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@MichaelArnim @mantisdragon91 The founding fathers created a living document that can and has been amended as time change. It is by no means written in stone like the 10 Commandments. More importantly our country's best chance to grow and flourish is by committing to science and technology. We can't do that if there are schools teaching kids that we hung out with dinosaurs and that the Earth is 5000 years old.

MichaelArnim
MichaelArnim

@mantisdragon91 @MichaelArnim 

I am so tired of liberals attacking conservatives for the same things they have been doing for eons. You cant tell me that liberal policies have not been slammed into kids books..they've been doing it for over 30 years. So Texas doesnt want that. We should be able to teach our kids the REAL constitution instead of some watered down version. 

You of all people should agree with that. How can you be a vet and not be pissed that schools across America are teaching that its ok to give up some of our freedoms in order to feel safer?? Or that its ok to teach the 1st Amendment doesnt give you free speech if you are speaking against the country? Or the 2nd Amendment or the 14th? Where does the insanity stop? 

How can you be ok with President Obama saying that the founding fathers created a document that has constrained him from completing his goals? What did you fight for? It cant be this. This isnt American views. 

MichaelArnim
MichaelArnim

@mantisdragon91 @MichaelArnim 

Sorry. We teach real history here. The bad and the good parts. Even the Constitution that plagues our current president and restricts him from turning us into a 100% socialist state.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@MichaelArnim @mantisdragon91 @FreonSandoz Its quite possible that you would. As I have said previously there are so many factors to consider that it is really hard to state with any degree of accuracy. Its also quite possible that the rest of the US would be better of without Texas.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@MichaelArnim @mantisdragon91 @FreonSandoz Yet again maybe, maybe not. Keep in mind that if Texas was a separate country you would be looking at major tariffs in exports to the rest of the US and it would make it much less attractive for US businesses to relocate there.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@MichaelArnim @mantisdragon91 @FreonSandoz And yet again I agree with the Texas paying more than in takes in general, my home state of PA does as well. But you can't cry Secession and complain about the feds while at the same time sticking your hand in the Federal pocket to the tune of Billions

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@MichaelArnim @mantisdragon91 @FreonSandoz I'm not saying anyone should punish Texas and you should absolutely have access to those funds. I am merely pointing out that Perry is a lying Hypocrite when he screams about Federal interference while at the same time getting Billions from the Federal government and talking about secession. What makes this country strong is the fact that we are a union of states and if one state is hurting the other states can help it get  back on its feet. Rugged individualism as Texas claims seems to only work in the good times, when the you know what hits the fan, it seems like Rugged Individualists like Perry are the first ones running to the Feds with their hands out.

MichaelArnim
MichaelArnim

@mantisdragon91 @MichaelArnim @FreonSandoz 

We had a 6.2 billion dollar deficit and the country was going into the crapper. Every other state was receiving funds to help out. Why punish Texas?? Why shouldnt we also have access to these funds? 

Now that we cut back and spend within our means... we are at a 9 billion dollar SURPLUS. 


mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@MichaelArnim@mantisdragon91@FreonSandozYou really are this stupid aren't you? From the very source you quoted earlier:

Q: Do 11 states now have more people on welfare than they have employed?

A: A viral email making this claim is off base. It distorts a Forbes article that compares private-sector workers with those “dependent on the government,” including government workers and pensioners, and Medicaid recipients — not just “people on welfare.”


mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@MichaelArnim @mantisdragon91 @FreonSandoz And if you actually bothered to read you so called "unbiased" source you would realize that even that source contradicts many of your claims. Just because you shout Liberal, doesn't change the facts or make your lie or lack of information any less egregious.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@MichaelArnim @mantisdragon91 @FreonSandoz I already showed you documentation that Texas is one of the biggest Welfare queens of them all. But by all means keep denying reality. I expect nothing less of a fool that thinks Bush did a good job and is someone the State of Texas should be proud of.

MichaelArnim
MichaelArnim

@mantisdragon91 @MichaelArnim @FreonSandoz 

We are a donor state... we've been giving to the fed more than we take forever...
Why shouldnt we take federal funds when all the other states are taking it? We have to keep up with roads and bridges, education and healthcare like every other state. 

Why punish Texas for doing well?? Just like a liberal. 

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@MichaelArnim@mantisdragon91@FreonSandoz 

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry likes to tell Washington to stop meddling in state affairs. He vocally opposed the Obama administration's 2009 stimulus program to spur the economy and assist cash-strapped states.

Perry also likes to trumpet that his state balanced its budget in 2009, while keeping billions in its rainy day fund.

But he couldn't have done that without a lot of help from ... guess where? Washington.

Turns out Texas was the state that depended the most on those very stimulus funds to plug nearly 97% of its shortfall for fiscal 2010, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

 http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/23/news/economy/texas_perry_budget_stimulus/index.htm

MichaelArnim
MichaelArnim

@mantisdragon91 @MichaelArnim @FreonSandoz 

federal funds? Lol. Please site references. 
Texas is the largest exporting state. 
Texas is the largest agricultural state. 
Texas is the largest oil and gas state. 
Texas is the largest defense state
Texas is home to 2 largest Army bases.
Houston Texas is the GLOBAL leader in energy since 2003. 
Texas is one of the major hubs for computer technologies
Austin Texas is now one of the top film making cities. 
Texas Medical Center is the leader in healthcare and cancer research. 

Lets see... exporting, oil, agriculture, defense, energy, computer tech, entertainment and healthcare. Doesnt seem like federal funds account for much of our success. 

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@MichaelArnim @FreonSandoz @mantisdragon91 Actually it wouldn't. A large part of the Texas budget is federal funds. With out the rest of the states you would be just another Theocracy governed by fanatics to the general detriment of its population.

mantisdragon91
mantisdragon91

@CattleCall The point is that it was never properly reported and if you read the article you would see that most oversight for this comes at the local and state level. It may not have cause the initial explosion but it certainly made the severity of the explosion much. much worse than if it hadn't been present. And if ammonium nitrate is a popular form of fertilizer in North Central Texas( and I have no reason or knowledge to disagree with your statement) Shouldn't the first thing a smart governor do is call for an inspection and oversight on all other plants to make sure that this does not happen again? Think that is what Perry is doing?

CattleCall
CattleCall

Dry ammonium nitrate is a popular form of  fertilzer in North Central Texas, and much more common than in other parts of the state.  I would imagine most fertlizer blending plants and distributors have more than 400 lbs (equal to 8 - 50lb bags to put it in perspective). of ammonium nitrate on hand. This plant was getting it in rail car quantities and storing it in bulk form.    The article you linked indicatres that regulation and oversight is somewhat jumbled. You would think that DHS would know where the ammonium nitrate manufacturing sites are, and where they are shipping to..........that would be easy, not the complete answer, but a good start!  Shame on the DHS since ammonium nitrate can be used to make explosives.  Is ammonium nitrate potentially dangerous, yes.  Is it dangerous under normal conditions, I don't really think so.  I  read you can toss a lit match on a pile of  ammonium nitrate and nothing would happen.  Early evidence and site inspection comments indicate the explosion may have occurred from a railcar of ammonium nitrate where the product was contained and therefore much more dangerous.  How it was ignited hasn't been answered yet.

CattleCall
CattleCall

The fertizer plant in West, TX wasn't "big business", it was blending facility that mixed purchased fertilizers to make blends needed by local farmers.  Similar type facilities are all over the country in farming areas, I am sure there are a bunch in Illinois. Before you start blaming big business, individuals, or even safety violations, let's  find out what the facts are........accidents do happen.