Bond King Bill Gross Exits US Debt: Good News?

Bill Gross says sell (Photo: Jason Reed/Reuters)

US debt may no longer be a good investment, at least for now. And that might be the good news.

Famed investor Bill Gross, who runs the PIMCO Total Return Fund, recently sold all of the US Treasury bonds is his fund’s portfolio. It’s a huge move for the manager of the world’s largest bond fund. As recently as June 2010, Gross’ fund held nearly $150 billion in US bonds. That amount has now been slashed to zero. But while the action will certainly be fodder for the crowd that thinks America is bankrupt, Gross’ moves may actually be another sign that the US economy is improving. Here’s why:

First of all, Gross didn’t sell all of his US Treasury bonds because he is worried that the US won’t be able to pay its debts. In a CNBC appearance on Thursday afternoon, Gross said credit wasn’t an issue for him. And in fact, Gross hasn’t sold all of his US debt holdings. He still owns Treasuries that mature in less than a year, which are technically called notes or bills, not bonds.

Gross sold because he thinks the price of US Treasury bonds are as high as they can go for now, and will fall. OK. That sounds bad. But you have to know a thing or two about the bond market. Bond prices and bond yields move in opposite directions. When yields rises, prices drop. That’s means Gross thinks that bond yields are set to rise (prices dropping), and that’s a good thing for everyone (other than traders of US Treasury bonds). Yields tend to rise when the economy is improving. This is what Gross had to say on CNBC:

Overvaluation [of Treasury bonds] has been dependent on the purchasing power of the Fed. When that disappears I question who will be buying [US debt] and at what price.

This is good news as well. Back when QE2 – the Fed’s bond buying program, which is scheduled to end in June – was announced many thought the economy would be so weak that we would need a QE3 as well. Gross clearly thinks the Fed is going to stop purchasing bonds in June. That would be another sign that the Fed thinks the economy is improving.

Of course, interest rates also rise, and bond prices fall, when we have a jump in inflation. And that’s likely to happen as well. But inflation can also be a sign of a better economy. And, as I have written before, the Fed is actually looking to goose inflation. The question is if they will go too far. Hyper-inflation would be a major problem. But if Gross was worried about that he would probably buy TIPs or Inflation Protected Treasuries. Instead he said he was buying corporate bonds, and emerging market bonds. The later group should protect his portfolio somewhat against inflation, but it’s not what you would buy if inflation was your main fear.

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  • http://rodgermmitchell.wordpress.com Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

    Much ado about nothing, unless you’re a bond trader. The guy sold $150 billion is Treasures, and the market yawned.

    Face it: Treasuries are a useless relic of the gold standard days. A Monetarily Sovereign government, having the unlimited ability to create money, doesn’t need to borrow the money it previously created and can continue creating, endlessly. The federal government could eliminate all federal debt tomorrow, simply by crediting the bank accounts of Treasuries holders.

    Federal “debt” is meaningless. QE 1, 2 and 100 are equally meaningless. Federal financing is different from your personal financing. Federal “borrowing” is irrelevant.

    Let’s talk instead about the ridiculous debt ceiling, which is meaningful because it’s so harmful. Imagine putting a ceiling on something the federal government could eliminate at the touch of a computer key.

    Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

  • ps56penn62pr64

    The national debt is simply a discretionary welfare program provided for banks, bankers and Wall Street bond traders.

    The cause of our economic problem is easy to see. When congress established the Federal Reserve in 1913, it delegated some of its monetary authority to a privately owned assemblage of for-profit banking corporations. They have been ripping off the American people ever since the Federal Reserve was founded. The Fed simply issue credit to itself, using that credit to buy government bonds, creating a national debt and charging us interest on our own money. In the past twenty years, we, the taxpayers, have been charged more than $8 trillion in interest, 75.3% of the accumulating debt, forcing a near collapse of our economy. All this, because we delegated our sovereign monetary authority to an assemblage of privately owned corporations, and then borrowed our own money.

    Never have so many, paid so much, to so few, for so little.

  • http://rodgermmitchell.wordpress.com Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

    Taxpayers do not pay for federal interest. Taxpayers do not pay for any federal spending. There is no relationship between federal taxes and federal spending. Even were federal taxes zero, this would not reduce by even one dollar, the federal government’s ability to spend.

    The reason: Since 1971, the federal government has been Monetarily Sovereign, meaning it has the unlimited ability to create dollars. Think about it: Why would a government having the unlimited ability to create dollars, ask you to give it some of the dollars it previously created?

    This is not the case for the states, counties and cities, which are not Monetarily Sovereign, and do not have the unlimited ability to create dollars.

  • 94134gamesmith

    Gamesmith94134: Bond King Bill Gross Exits US Debt: Good News
    Taxpayers do not pay for federal interest, and Mr. Mitchell is right.
    However, what can I do with the dollars that I cashed in? Buying real estate Las Vegas, in Nevada? Or buy gold/copper till the price collapse or gold delivers in 2015?
    I mean there will be not short-term investment to US; and long-term investment is questionable if the inflation to the consumers and deflation to the durables goods and real estate challenge the Fed to resolve. And, after the budget shrinkage or impasse shutting the government down….and then debt crisis all over again. It is a wake-up call for Mr. Bernanke and Mr. Obama.
    Does my face look muscular after the punch in my face?
    May the Buddha bless you?

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