Can the G-20 solve the world’s economic problems?

Once again, the industrious finance ministers of the G-20 met to solve the world’s economic problems, this time in Paris, and after hours of haggling and arm-twisting over the weekend, ended up with something that looks like an agreement on one of the biggest challenges facing the global economy today: giant imbalances. There is almost full consensus among economists that global imbalances – huge external surpluses in countries like China and Germany, and huge deficits in the U.S. – were at the root of the global economic crisis. Such imbalances are a sign of structural problems within economies, which, if not addressed, can make the global economy more vulnerable to crises. For example, China needs to stimulate domestic demand to reduce its dependence on investment and exports; the U.S. needs to increase its savings rate to reduce its dependence on debt-driven consumption. Finding ways to bringing the world into better balance has been one the key objectives of the G-20 for the past two years.

In theory, this latest meeting made progress in that direction. But the outcome shows both the promise and the perils of the new global economic order.

First, the specifics. The agreement eventually reached in Paris (which you can read here) lays out a list of indicators that will be monitored to judge the progress made by member countries in reducing imbalances. The indicators include public and private debt levels, private savings rates and trade balances. The ministers agreed as well to devise “guidelines” (not targets) for each indicator against which this progress can be measured. These guidelines are supposed to be formalized by the next G-20 powwow in April. That’s the good news. On the other hand, getting this agreement was the diplomatic equivalent of having your wisdom teeth pulled out. The agreement conspicuously fudged the matter of exchange rates, which, obviously, should be included in any discussion of imbalances, since they factor into trade surpluses and deficits. According to press reports from Paris, China, eternally sensitive about any criticism that it controls the value of the yuan to promote its exports, objected strenuously to including exchange rates on the list of indicators. Eventually, Beijing’s negotiators accepted a compromise. The result is a sentence in the communiqué that no high school English teacher would allow on a mid-term exam:

While not targets, these indicative guidelines will be used to assess the following indicators: (i) public debt and fiscal deficits; and private savings rate and private debt (ii) and the external imbalance composed of the trade balance and net investment income flows and transfers, taking due consideration of exchange rate, fiscal, monetary and other policies.

If that leaves you a bit dizzy, you’re not alone. My favorite comment on the communiqué came from Christine Lagarde, France’s finance minister, who told reporters: “It means what it means what it means, just like a rose is a rose is a rose.”

But does this agreement smell as sweet? If we look at the G-20 agreement as a glass half full, it shows that, if pressed to the wall, the diplomats of the world’s most influential nations can actually find ways to sort out differences and achieve a basic consensus on the fundamentals of reform for the global economy, despite their immense disparities of political systems, income levels and economic circumstances. In the end, China was willing to at least make a partial concession to make sure G-20 negotiations didn’t completely implode. So there exists a willingness among the world’s great nations to maintain a certain degree of cooperation on the direction of global economic policy.

If we look at the glass half empty, however, we can see how far we still have to go to get anywhere near a real working framework for global economic reform. If we had such a tussle over simply choosing the indicators to be watched, we can only imagine the brutality of the upcoming battles over the specific guidelines themselves. At what level is a trade surplus or deficit sustainable? Should there be “minimums” as well as “maximums” put on indicators like government debt? Then there’s the toughest issue yet – how in the world can these guidelines be enforced? The biggest problem with reducing global imbalances is that to do so, individual countries must take reform measures to adjust domestic economic policies. In other words, they have to act locally for the global good. But will they? And what happens if countries ignore or fail to meet guidelines? How can we make independent governments alter economic policies to meet the guidelines, if those measures run counter to domestic economic or political interests? The result is a hard-won agreement that exits in something of an alternative universe to the real world of real policy. Barclays Capital economists Luca Ricci and Jeffrey Young, who were generally upbeat on the outcome of the summit, described the agreement this way in a report on Monday:

The indicative guidelines can be viewed as an expression of the “rules of the game.” Although we are skeptical that this step will lead anywhere in the near term, the setting of norms, with a dose of “peer pressure” (under the IMF’s surveillance), is a sort of halfway house between anarchy and a rigid system of controls.

But is a “halfway house” enough? The problem with the G-20 format is that any one of the 20 nations can object to anything, and thus squelch any agreement. The result is always going to be a “halfway house” to appease contending interests. That may be sufficient to stop the world’s most important nations from descending into trade wars and other destructive policies. But it likely won’t be enough to goad governments beset by their own political and economic challenges to put the good of the world ahead of their own perceived, immediate good. What we’re left with is agreements that look lovely like roses, but wilt after a few days anyway.

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  • http://rodgermmitchell.wordpress.com Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

    For the G20 to accomplish anything, it first must recognize the difference between Monetarily Sovereign nations and nations that are monetarily non-sovereign. Treating both types of nations similarly is like treating rabies with a polio vaccine.

    Those monetarily non-sovereign nations, having difficulty servicing their debt, either must increase exports, increase taxes or reduce spending — or they must become Monetarily Sovereign.

    Monetarily Sovereign nations do not and cannot have difficulty financing their debt, as they have the unlimited ability to pay any bill of any size. They actually are better off with a negative balance of payments, reduced taxes and increased spending — the exact opposite of monetarily non-sovereign nations.

    Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

  • bojimbo26

    Of course they are not going to solve anything ; they are there to look pretty , eat and drink free food , and make one hell of a large carbon footprint . ( In other words – a quango ) .

  • economicsfordemocrats

    The main reason for imbalance is that companies move to the lower wage countries to maximize profits. This is great for them. But, it in the long run it reduces the number of quality customers in the entire global economy. These almost slave labor countries can not create enough quality customers (domestic spending). (Germany is an exception) Borrowing to consume is now severely reduced,

    We need to stop competing on basic wages! The global economy wages need to approach parity. All wages need to approach the big three not ours to the slave wages of others! We do not live in a world of scarcity any more!

    This is one of the major problems besides monetary reform that Rodger talks about.

    Mark Pash, CFP
    Center for Progressive Economics.

  • http://rodgermmitchell.wordpress.com Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

    Mark,

    “Slave” labor results from a combination of politics and economics. I suspect (without proof) that lower wages begin in countries with poor economics, whose leaders believe they need to export in order to acquire money. Then, as these countries export more and more, their economics improve and their wages rise, and there is less pressure on exporting. China may evolve in that direction.

    The facts are slightly different, however. A Monetarily Sovereign nation, which has the unlimited ability to create its own currency, does not need to acquire money from outside its borders. Thus, China easily could move from a net exporter to a net importer, and benefit by receiving goods and services in exchange for its easily-created money.

    By contrast, the PIIGS, being monetarily non-sovereign, do need to export.

    I discuss this in more detail at: “Why the U.S. owns China

    Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

  • 94134gamesmith

    Gamesmith94134: Can the G-20 solve the world’s economic problems?
    “The problem with the G-20 format is that any one of the 20 nations can object to anything, and thus squelch any agreement.” It is because each brings on their problems in complaining the others that each neglected the advantages or disadvantage when trade goes on among each other.
    • Why China defy investment to China, Brazil or their commodities to stop inflation?
    • How monetarily sovereignty nations dominated the resources of the world including food supplies?
    • If the non-monetarily sovereignty nations are slave to export; do they responsible for the livelihood of themselves and others?
    • If renminbi rises 3% more, can China manufactures more to export, or put its people in unemployment and receive the relief fund off the government’s trade surplus till it is gone?
    I remember Mr. Mahmoud Abbas Asked Israel to take over Palestine and reelect for its government, or Mr. Netanyahu and Mr. Mitchell can draw the separation of the land and let Mr. Abbas to choose. The deals stagnated and I assume G-20 has the same dilemma.
    Perhaps, it is all happened in the imbalance of the value and price we put on the currencies and trades. So, the answer may be called on separated but equal; but how we separate the advantages to disadvantage on how we do business if we understand the risks that we must take and give in the half-full and half-empty on the economic or realpolitics.
    Gamesmith94134: Models Versus Slogans

    Perhaps, when we compare the economy at the strength of its currency, to the capacity to earn its claim; it could just like a glass with water half way. We put all the prices of all currencies in a glass that all of them are relatively proportion in its own right; the value of the currencies; each must be supported by it substance like employment, productivity, population and government. Then, the state as half empty currencies must balances the half full substances. Value balances price in its fair exchange and in its nature’s way as many perceive.

    No one is certain how not our economy would work under the under-priced dollar while euro and yen jumped; I think everyone will change every game plan now. As for OCED and Japan, austerity may suffocate their economy from the boost of strength in their currencies. Deflation they can bankrupt many banks and business. Their products or exports are more expensive for Americans, then, there will be more in trade deficit for America.
    Perhaps, the Fed with all its’ excellent economist, they are all good with numbers and model; but they should observe more on the physical. Nature of thing is the forever truth even under the manipulation like one goes up, it must come down. Dollar vs. yen, or dollar vs. renminbi. Manipulation or exchange can only provide a substitute within either value or price. It is very physical and they do not disappear that they bounce up and down. So, many should stop calculate and look into the interchange on the price and the value on the currencies. It is observation and not calculus. It is the social and global behavior that does not show on screen from the computer.
    A moment of time, gold priced at $869 and it is worth $1337 now. If the gold does not change till the future market ends, then, gold appreciated and dollars devalued, right? When comes to bidding, your $100 was worth $97 and $95 to-day? Or, should someone have bought the $100 goods with his $95 worth of Euro that day?
    It sounds childish when I look into the price and value on the dollar; I see it as the question like the half full and half empty of water in an enclosed glass. I can only put it the way as I see it in applying to the relativity of price/value of a dollar.
    May the Buddha bless you?

  • waynebernard

    Neither the world’s central bankers nor the IMF, the supposed guardians of the world’s economy, have the foggiest notion of the outcome of their fiscal experiments. As shown here, even the IMF with their arsenal of “deep thinking economists” totally missed the signs pointing to the Great Recession:

    http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2011/02/imf-and-worlds-central-bankers-blind.html

    I cannot imagine the leaders of the G20 doing any better at steering the world’s economy.

    The IMF and the world’s central bankers – the blind leading the blind. Unfortunately, we pay for their mistakes.

  • 94134gamesmith

    Gamesmith94134: Can the G-20 solve the world’s economic problems?

    Long before the monopoly began, we only saw the white knight and black knight who took advantages on efficiency to occupy corporations and dismantle them for profits. Now, capitalists and opportunists took role of the gatekeeper to these emerging markets and participated in their games as scalawags and Carpetbagger in the emerging markets; and, they corrupted themselves with the efficiency and knowledge in safeguarding the resources like the gatekeeper or money manager. At present, their successes in manipulating the scarcity of each commodity through the hedge funds or bankers; now, more pensions are involved, its assets are much bigger than sovereignty. It even controls many nations that are short on cash; and many nations joined in the games as well.
    As the qualitative Easing performed, more of hot cash are being emerged into these hedge funds. They controlled all stages of production or manufacturing; and they dominated most commodities with their highest bid; all prices are inflated because the lower values on currencies that qualitative easing made available.
    IMF must think fast how to persuade every nation that cash do not act; and it is how the owner of it behaves. We are on the wrong side of the argument; it is value not price. What is behind the numbers? It is the value of all things including currencies.
    Perhaps, inflation may have been man-made that we profit from the real estate price rising, state and fed employees salary and benefits increased or budgetary expansion. We may overlook the economics downside; it was the population growth below the viable living. The power structure of the upside economics collapsed since house owner borrowed equity for another house, and the financial calculated the income off the assumption that price will be supported. Did you wonder how 1/3 of the Egyptians live on $2 a day? And they did; so did those gave up their houses. We never know how elastic the economic going to be; but I know credit crunch made it anemic. How does the crunch come about?
    We over-consumed;
    The withdrawal of equity from the housing market— which amounted to 7.5 percent of household disposable income in the first three quarters of 2005—has provided a convenient way of borrowing, which has helped boost consumption in recent years.
    And, we over-estimated.
    And who knows what would have happened if, for instance, Lehman Brothers had successfully found a buyer that weekend in September 2008?”
    From: The IMF and the World’s Central Bankers – The Blind leading the Blind?
    While not targets, these indicative guidelines will be used to assess the following indicators:
    (i) public debt and fiscal deficits; and private savings rate and private debt
    (ii) (ii) and the external imbalance composed of the trade balance and net investment income flows and transfers, taking due consideration of exchange rate, fiscal, monetary and other policies.

    Read more: http://curiouscapitalist.blogs.time.com/2011/02/21/can-the-g-20-solve-the-world%e2%80%99s-economic-problems/#ixzz1Edemh0XP
    The above gave a damn good reasons on the imbalance and showed a stand-off among nations; so the G-20 understand how the global economy is the up-side formula is under attack of the down –side formula—population on a viable living; and the zero percent v. five percent is being argued in the court of profitability or unemployment. Who wins?
    Take 3% interest rate increase on US and corporate bond. Stop bid on the same item twice a day with a broker. Call me after six month.

  • economicsfordemocrats

    Rodger, I don’t disagree with you at all. Except, we are not creating our money at will and we are losing competitive jobs. The cycle is broken and we are not creating quality consumers any where until we get monetary and wage reform.

    Mark

  • hansenabcd

    Yes, China’s currency is undervalued, but isn’t it about time for the world — including the G-20 ministers — to start focusing on the fact that the dollar is far more seriously overvalued than the yuan is undervalued.

    Last year the US current account deficit was over 70 percent larger than the Chinese current account surplus. In fact, the US deficit was nearly as large as the Chinese and German surpluses combined!

    If the US did not run such large deficits, China (and Germany) could not run such large surpluses.

    Time has come for the US to take action, unilaterally if necessary, to bring the dollar’s value in line with a sustainable balance between imports and exports.

    Yes, the dollar has fallen by about 23% since reaching a peak at the end of the Tech Bubble, but it is still about 15% overvalued compared to where it was in 1991, the last year the US maintained a balanced external account.

    Restoring external balance through increased US production of goods and services that can successfully compete with those of other nations in both our domestic markets and as exports in world markets would put millions of Americans back to work in sustainable, market-driven jobs — something that no volumne of government “stimulus” expenditure can do.

    The United States can bring about this miracle simply by imposing a very modest transaction charge on the massive and often speculative inflows of foreign capital that push the dollar up to unrealistic, unsustainable, and damaging levels. Such a Capital Inflows Moderation Charge would go to zero as soon as the dollar returned to more competitive levels consistent with balanced external trade.

    America needs a Competiive Dollar, and it needs one now.

    John Hansen, PhD Economist, World Bank Retiree

  • 94134gamesmith

    Gamesmith94134: Can the G-20 solve the world’s economic problems?

    “Competitive Dollar” is a good start for US banker and World Banker to talk on the value and price of Dollar; it is a case of the Federated Stores V. Macy’s or the Walgreen v. Dollar Store. If Mr. Hansen wants to sell “competitive Dollar” in the world market, he should study the market if the balance of price and value is misplaced.
    I think Mr. Hansen would have living too long in the monopoly game that only comes in cardboard; or American would be proud for being a smart shopper who shops in dollar store or Federated since their incomes were screwed. The consumers like American understand the viable living standard; they strive to survive and their choice on the Chinese products instead of American is caused by the loss of the middle class who went Macy’s; or Chinese product has its better value.
    Just remember, the electronics age came with mobility that the world is their market and availability is just a click away. My long-term saving offered 1% interest; and Hong Kong gives 5%. Where would keep your cash? And would you neglect its earning?
    Perhaps, you know a guy who offers 10% return in America; he is good with commodities markets. I knew some jumped off the buildings as ones scheme on building up a product or commodity on price; take our financials like Bank of America or Lehman’s Brother, or oil industry. $60 billion on Face book at a “competitive dollar” price? Do you think it will learn its $60 billion at value relevant to its price in the next years since you learn of the Tech Bubble? Now, I worry for Mr. Gates’ Microsoft since it was challenged in EU and wonder if it ever spread all over if the technology on computing is becoming obsolete. I do not mean we are not using computer, but it is who are using it. Now does the down-side formula come in place now? Our dollar was persistently calculated on the growth of GDP and omitted the deficit on the scale of pricing to our competitive dollar. Do you think the Monetarily Sovereignty nation can print money at no costs and it finance itself by pricing? It looks good on the million dollars houses and we need the taxes to support our government; but they are empty and deteriorated.
    It is not how we price it, and it is how we market them including “Competitive dollar”. Find yourself a down-side formula to make American go Macy’s instead of Dollar Store; or American will walk like an Egyptians too.
    May the Buddha bless you?

  • jkhc

    I humbly submit my following proposals which were first put forward on March, 31, 2009 just prior to the first G20 summit in London on April 2, 2009 :-

    http://jkhcforum.blogspot.com/2009_03_31_archive.html

    and my proposed revision of our value system of not maximizing our utility to 100% as traditionally suggested by capitalistic or market economists :-

    http://jkhcforum.blogspot.com/2009/04/financial-tsunami-ft-way-forward-20.html

    Joseph K.H. Cheng ( March 1, 2011 )

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