Does Asia have the answer?

Ruchika Tulshyan, who is interning at Time this summer, said some interesting things in this morning’s meeting. We asked her to write a blog post. Here it is.

As the austerity debate rages on and squabbles erupt over every single point—should interest rates be raised? is stimulus spending good or bad?—there are lessons to be learned from Asia. Singapore reported 18.1 percent growth in the first half of 2010, and China’s growth is estimated to come in at as much as 10 percent this year. What gives?

Interestingly, many of the macroeconomic principles that have benefitted the wealthy Asian nations—specifically, Singapore, Hong Kong and China—come from Western economists. As we debate the validity of our ideologies here in the U.S., countries in Asia are reporting record growth numbers using these very ideas.

First, the contentious question of stimulus. Early 20th century British economist J.M Keynes said that the ill-effects of the private sector can be counteracted by strong monetary and fiscal policies. Modern day anti-Keynesians are crying foul over the Obama administration’s injections to the economy and citizens. The Congressional Budget Office said the federal budget is on an unsustainable path if the U.S. government continues to spend on healthcare and Social Security.

But on the other side of the world, it is exactly this Keynesian ideology that has worked remarkably well. Fitch ratings agency recently stated that China’s fiscal stimulus package was 13.5 percent of GDP, and 8 percent in Singapore. In a statement released today, China’s President Hu Jintao said China would continue to implement a proactive fiscal policy, combined with a loose monetary policy. In 2008, China put a $586 billion stimulus package to work that rescued their weakening economy. Now, analysts believe China could overtake Japan as the world’s second largest economy, as soon as by the end of this year. With fears of overheating looming, Asian governments are quickly stepping in to cool things down, whether in the property market or through currency valuations.

Then, there’s the question of government stake in large companies. Many cried “socialism” when General Motor’s CEO Richard Wagoner was ousted last year by the Obama administration.

Yet in Asia, “modern socialism” has worked rather well in major companies. Take the case of Singapore Airlines, the world’s second largest carrier by market value. Singapore’s government owns a 54 percent stake, by way of their investment vehicle, Temasek Holdings. While Singapore has often stressed their non-involvement in corporate governance of the airline, the stability created by the economy’s strong governance as a whole, has increased investor confidence, both local and foreign. Companies in Singapore such as DBS Bank and Sinopec in China have also benefited from central government stakes, be it in terms of governance or investor confidence. Chinese and Singaporean businesses enjoy substantial state subsidies that have seen them through tough times.

Finally, David Pilling’s piece in today’s Financial Times really summed up the aversion to debt seen in many Asian nations. China, Hong Kong and Singapore have enjoyed high savings rates and bolstered their reserves continuously, cautious of the boom years in the West. Their quick bounce-back this year is testament to the wisdom of spending with one hand, saving with the other.

While the cultural differences at play make it hard to adapt any lessons without flexibility—one could not lump the Thai and Singaporean economies into the same category—there is something to be said for taking the wisdom of age-old economics and applying it with prudence. It might be time to re-learn the lessons we lent to Asia.

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  • http://stephenpoo.wordpress.com stephenpoo

    Asia certainly has the answer for thier nations at this time. I picture it as a wave in the ocean where Asia is rising up the face of the wave towards the crest.
    The US on the other hand has already rode the crest and is sliding down the back of the wave towards the trough. This in terms of industrial production of salable products and full employment and standard of living.
    We can’t compete with the asian labor force it seems.

    My question is; of the nations that have passed this way previously are there any shinning examples out there who have hit the trough and found a new wave to climb up on? How are they coping and will it work for the US?

  • http://rodgermmitchell.wordpress.com Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

    The misguided, anti-debt belief is the single most important reason for our slow recovery. Federal debt is different from personal debt, business debt, state debt and local debt. It also is different from EU debt.
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    The Asian countries understand this; the American, debt-hawk economists do not. The debt hawks have done more harm to America than all our outside enemies, combined. Want to see a partial list of the damage caused by debt hawks? See: DEBT HAWK DAMAGES.
    .
    If you want to understand federal debt, and why growing the debt is necessary for growing the economy, see: Randall Wray’s one page summary.

  • jkhc

    The Asian economies are certainly using western, especially Keynesian economics to combat against the aftermath of the 2008 financial tsunami. The fact that they are successful has a lot to do with their not so democratic ( by western standards ) government systems. China, the most successful economy has a government that tolerates no opposition, not even the verbal type from intellectual dissidents. The Chinese Communist Party can carry out practically any policy they desire. That guarantees the efficiency of any economic measures toward recovery. The only way for western especially the US economy to achieve a full recovery is to modify the individual citizen’s value system of attaining 100% efficiency or Adam Smith’s traditional maximization of economic utility at the expense of human compassion. In other words, the still rich citizens must spend more to support the recovery and not to wait for rock bottom prices in goods and services to catch a bargain. No amount of government spending can replace the general consumption power of the general populace. Please remember that any extra government spending will ultimately be borne by taxpayers or their future generations. Every citizen especially the wealthy must do their part just like in WWII. This is an economic war we are fighting.
    Please refer to my blog here on this particular point :- http://jkhcforum.blogspot.com/ ( my entry for April 20, 2009 ) also see my proposals on March 31, 2009 before the G20 summit in London on April 2, 2009. My overview of the financial tsunami can be seen here :- http://sites.google.com/site/jkhclifestyle/Home/2008-economic—financial-tsunami

  • singaporepublicpolicy

    Actually Barbara, you probably should have done a little editing of Ruchika’s work, because it’s obvious that she doesn’t know what she’s writing about.

    Either that or she’s being deliberately disingenous.

    Essentially her argument is this:

    Singapore is experiencing impressive economic growth because of it’s stimulus and it’s public ownership of many large (and successful) Singaporean corporations. America therefore should embrace both further stimulus and government ownership of corporations (like GM).

    Really?

    I am not sure if Ruchika knows much about Singapore but if she did, she would realize how wrong she is.

    Singapore entered the Financial Crisis with probably the strongest public finances in the world. There were healthy surpluses, no government debt, no looming entitlement crunch, and no public sector pension liabilities. They were therefore in a position to use their surpluses to “stimulate” the economy when it wobbled in 2008-2009. There is no argument about fiscal austerity in Singapore because there is no fiscal crisis, taxes are among the lowest in the world, and public services are high and efficient. America (and much of the developed world) is in such a different context that it is impossible- foolhardy- to draw comparisons. There is no debate about fiscal austerity in Singapore because the government had managed the public finances efficiently before the crisis.

    The form of Singapore’s stimulus also differed greatly than America’s. Singapore’s stimulus had essentially three parts, the first was worker re-training to raise productivity, the second was to subsidize employers for employees and the third was to re-launch several infrastructure and other development projects the government had put on hold during the boom because of concerns about excess demand on resources. America’s stimulus was essentially a hodge podge of spending at whatever connected interest group could get their pet cause penned into the bill. Furthermore, the potential second stimulus being debated America right now would essentially be a public sector employee protection bill. This would do nothing to raise productivity of either the private or the public sectors.

    Finally, the reason why Singapore’s government can successfully private corporations whereas it is problematic for America to do the same- is because in Singapore is very successful at preventing rent-seeking behavior by these companies whereas America does not have such a good experience with this. A case in point is the Singapore government’s policy of promoting liberal aviation policy, even when this harms Singapore Airline’s market share. A good example of this, is allowing Australia fifth freedom rights in the republic- even though Australia refuses to extend these same rights to Singapore Airlines.

    To see the difference between the way the Singapore government “owns” companies to the way in which America does, compare this:

    http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2003/12/03/lee-kuan-yew-govt-cannot-let-pilots-have-their-way/

    to this:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/07/race_played_role_in_obama_car.html

  • jkhc

    This report from The New York Times dated July 16, 2010 supports the point I was making in individual spending which can only come about with a revised value system of not achieving 100% economic utility for the individual citizen : – http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/17/business/economy/17consumers.html?_r=1&th&emc=th

  • jkhc

    Let me also quote the words of one of the most beloved US presidents, the late John F. Kennedy :- ” Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. ” – The answer to the second rhetorical question is surely this : – ” Spend to support your country’s recovery Yee, the wealthy and the privileged. “

  • Ruchika Tulshyan

    Thanks for the thoughts.

    I am, in fact, Singaporean.

    I’d just like to point to the fact that Singapore’s economy was one of the hardest hit by the recession in the West, because of their relationship with the U.S. economy. The fact that they bounced back, had a lot to do with their government’s foresight into launching a strong stimulus program — exactly what you highlighted with worker retraining and subsidies. They identified the right type of stimulus required for their unique circumstances, and responded equally quickly when they had worries of overheating by tightening monetary policy in April.

    In addition, I added the caveat that there are cultural factors at play, that make economic theory adaptable and successful in different countries. I am not offering active solutions to America’s problems; merely observing what worked in Asian countries.

  • Ruchika Tulshyan

    * Singapore’s economy was one of the hardest hit Asian economies was what I meant to say.

  • http://rodgermmitchell.wordpress.com Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

    jkhc said, “Please remember that any extra government spending will ultimately be borne by taxpayers or their future generations.”
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    This oft-repeated myth simply is . . . a myth. Taxes do not pay for the spending of a monetarily sovereign nation. Taxes could be reduced to zero, and this would not affect by even one dollar, the government’s ability to spend. You, your children and your grandchildren do not and will not pay for federal spending. They couldn’t, even if they wished to.
    .
    Believe it or not, some patriotic people actually send extra tax money to the government, in a misguided effort to reduce the deficit. What a cruel hoax. All this does is reduce the money supply.
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    There is no mechanism for taxes to pay for federal spending. The two are separate.

    Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

  • robert1952

    Rodger,

    You are correct so far as you go. However, there is more. There is no free lunch. Wealth must be created and it cannot be created through government force. Government can “stabilize” an economy by being a big spender. That stability is a straitjacket.

    Do you remember the disastrous inflation of the 70′s and 80′s?

    Robert Kier

  • jemsuh

    America’s Financial Network should adapt to the new rules of the global economy. 1) Governments are active participants in the economy, 2) Intellectual property is not globally governed, 3) trade protections and barriers are traded off in a secondary market for political favors/power exchange, 4) currencies are financial products in competition. All of this is to say that everywhere else in the world, the government is accepted as a primary if not highly active economic actor – not just perceived as a burdensome holder of tax money. When the US realizes this change in the global economy and begins to participate fully in this regard, we will be operating at a serious handicap.

  • jemsuh

    “When the US realizes this change in the global economy and begins to participate fully in this regard, we will be operating at a serious handicap.”

    Meant to say “UNTIL the US realizes this change in the global economy and begins to participate fully in this regard, we will be operating at a serious handicap.”

    not “When” but “UNTIL”

  • http://rodgermmitchell.wordpress.com Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

    robert1952,

    You said, “There is no free lunch. Wealth must be created and it cannot be created through government force.”
    .
    I suppose it depends on how you define “wealth.” The federal government has the unlimited power to create money out of thin air — the ultimate free lunch.
    .
    The disastrous inflation of the late ’70′s came at the end of the Carter administration, which was not a big spender. The inflation ended at the start of the Reagan administration, one of the biggest spenders in history.
    .
    In fact, since the end of the gold standard in 1971, there has been no relationship between federal deficit spending and inflation. (See: INFLATION ) Since then, the primary cause of inflations has been oil prices, not federal deficits.
    .
    I know this is not what the debt hawks tell you, but those are the facts.
    .
    Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

  • jkhc

    Dear Roger,

    The only way that extra government spending need not be ” really paid for by valuable compensation ” is by printing more money which is inflationary if the extra paper ( or fiat ) money is not matched by increased economic efficiency or production of goods and services. As a matter of fact, the US government had announced in a high profile manner that money supply or liquidity will be adequately maintained by printing as much as needed in an effort to calm the panic arising from credit squeeze during the aftermath of the 2008 financial tsunami. While this is good policy as a short term response to an emergency over indulgence will lead to loss of confidence in the US dollar and a certain path to becoming a third world country like Zimbabwe with hyper inflation and endless misery for her citizens.

    Let us get back to the basics of economics. Economics is sometimes defined as a study of how mankind meet their unlimited needs with always limited resources. The key words here are ‘ limited resources ‘. We must always deal with resources ( goods & services including intellectual properties ) while we only rely on the financial system ( money, banking, monetary policies, etc. ( which has been grossly abused out of greed resulting in the tsunami ) as a tool to fairly and efficiently allocate available economic resources if we were not to revert to the primitive barter system. Therefore, a healthy financial system must be maintained and this requires public trust and confidence which have been totally destroyed by the black sheep of the financial world. It is always better to stick to the moral basics of fairness and hard work rather than some financial tricks to get back to a full and healthy recovery;

    jkhc.

  • http://rodgermmitchell.wordpress.com Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

    jkhc,
    .
    In post #10, I provided a link showing that since we went off the gold standard in 1971, there has been no relationship between federal deficits and inflation. I know this is contrary to popular intuition and to what the debt hawks believe, but that is the fact.
    .
    You gave the misleading example of Zimbabwe and hyperinflation. Zimbabwe has had hyperinflation, but not because of national deficits.
    .
    It began with Robert Mugabe’s compulsory land redistribution, which stole land from people who knew how to use it, and gave it to people who didn’t. Droughts and lack of financing exacerbated a decline in exports. In addition, the courts were compromised so that “law” did not exist. All of these led to hyperinflation.

    In short, mentioning the name of a lawless country with hyperinflation does not address the questions: Are the U.S. federal debt and deficit too high? The answer is: No, they are too low. See: QUICK SUMMARY.
    .
    Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

  • jkhc

    Dear Roger,

    Would you kindly enlighten me on how the extra government spending should be paid for then ? You sound as if you can create things out of nothing. If so there is no need for the study of economics which is only necessary when there are ” limited resources “. The impression I get from your comments is that you can produce unlimited finance ( money & credit ) which I agree but can you produce unlimited economic resources ( real economic goods and services ) ? If you can make the latter event happen you will be awarded the Nobel Prize for economics without a doubt. One must not confuse finance ( the tool to run the economy ) with the precious and few economic resources themselves. The former is only the means while the latter is the end which requires fair and efficient allocation.

    Just one little point about government having a big share of the economy. This again concerns basic economic principle of a market or capitalistic economy. Any government will tend to be wasteful because it is not bound by the commercial or market principle of profitability. One needs a huge bureaucracy to put economic programs into reality and that will cost an arm and a leg. That is why ( other things being equal ) the private sector should be given priority to utilize economics resources under a generally acceptable legal frame work to ensure fairness to all citizens. Obviously, the previous US government had failed miserably in financial regulation.

    You are right in saying that the US deficits differ from EU and other countries. This is simply because the US dollar is a banker currency which is not only used to pay for US goods and services but also for international payments by numerous countries whose currencies are not accepted for this purpose. More importantly, the US dollar is also the reserve currency backing many other currencies. For example, the Hong Kong dollar is 100 % backed by the US dollar. It is also a safe haven for investors in times of upheavals in the financial market because the US economy is still the largest in the world. Most global citizens must buy US goods and services of some kind all the time. One of these days people will find a replacement for the US dollar if they feel cheated because the constant increase in US dollar supply is not matched by increase in its economic value. This is already happening. There is no place for arrogance and complacency. Only by going back to basics like increase in economic efficiency and earning a fair day’s pay for a fair day’s work ( and not rip offs by the black sheep of billions of dollars from the hard earned life time savings of honest citizens ) will save the day.

    jkhc.

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