Creating not just jobs, but good jobs

Richard Florida’s recent piece in the FT, “America needs to make its bad jobs better,” presents a pretty interesting argument, one that a nation so focused on job creation might want to keep in mind. Florida points out, as plenty of others have before, that the sorts of service-sector jobs the U.S. is on track to create the most of in coming years—for home health aides, customer service workers, food preparers, retail sales clerks—don’t necessarily pay all that well, and certainly not as well as the manufacturing jobs they are replacing. Florida then argues that low pay isn’t necessarily inherent in these sorts of jobs, and that it is fully within our control to make them better:

It has happened before. [T]he blue-collar jobs we pine for were not always good jobs: we made them good jobs. When my father came back from the second world war, his poorly paid factory job had been transformed. He was able to buy a house, put his two sons through college and participate fully in the American dream. Some of this was due to the power of unions. Most of it was because of the enormous improvements in productivity wrought by improved technologies and management techniques. The same thing can and must happen in the service sector.

Since Florida’s opinion piece, a number of econobloggers, including Felix Salmon and Mark Thoma, have pointed out that even if the service-sector were to see a big boost in productivity, that wouldn’t necessarily translate into higher wages (or better benefits, etc). Historically, one has led to the other in the U.S., but that relationship started to break down in the early 1980s. Nowadays, gains from productivity are just as likely to feed an increase in manager or shareholder wealth.

There are a number of theories about why that is, but the big obvious one is the decline in unionization. Consider the following example, from Low-Wage Work in the Wealthy World, a book put out last earlier this year by the Russell Sage Foundation which uses case studies to show how the same jobs and economic pressures in different countries can lead to different qualities of life.

[I]n the United States and several European nations, wages and working conditions of front-line workers in meat processing plants are deteriorating as large retailers put severe pressure on prices, and firms respond by employing low-wage immigrant labor. But in Denmark, where unions are strong, and, to a lesser extent, in France, where the statutory minimum wage is high, the low-wage path is blocked, and firms have opted instead to invest more heavily in automation to raise productivity, improve product quality, and sustain higher wages.

Now, unions are far from perfect, even if the goal is to preserve higher pay. As the Russell Sage book points out, heavy unionization hasn’t done much for motel maids in Europe. And of course it is possible to get to a higher quality of job with no union involvement. Florida holds up the grocery chain Trader Joe’s and its  policy of paying full-time workers at least their community’s median household income. Another example: people who work at Starbucks get health insurance simply because the company’s CEO thinks it’s the right thing to do.

The bigger point, then, is to recognize the importance of outside influences on companies—whether that means unions or Howard Schultz’s conscience. In the job-creation debate, companies are often talked about as if they already contain jobs and will produce them if just squeezed hard enough. The truth, of course, is that jobs are created when aggregate demand rises, something that comes from outside the company.

In the same way, the quality-job-creation debate often only addresses the decisions and values within a particular company or industry. If only the service sector were more productive, wages would rise. If only Wal-Mart weren’t so mercenary, fewer of its employees would have to turn to Medicaid for health coverage. Those things might very well be true. But it might also be true that we’d get better service jobs if Americans cared more about the quality of the things they buy and less about the quantity. If socks were three times as expensive, then they wouldn’t be nearly as disposable, and maybe it would be worth paying for a sales clerk who could intelligently talk to customers about the differences between brands. Alternatively, maybe we would get better service jobs if institutional investors who own shares in retail and other service corporations didn’t demand to see earnings grow each and every quarter.

I’m not saying that changing America’s shopping or stock-holding mentality is the right path, or even a possible one, but the example should at least serve to remind us that companies are responding to a whole host of forces when they decide to pay their workers at a particular level.

Related Topics: job creation, productivity, Richard Florida, Economy & Policy
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    Creation of a Quality Customer/Client/Consumer Minimum Wage would be a quick step in the right direction!

    It can be age weighted. like England. It will not solve the significant global wage imbalance. It would make it difficult to compete in the export market. It needs to be implemented globally with some local differences.

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  • Ffred

    As long as economic success is gauged by consumption, changing deeply conditioned consumer habits is self defeating. I’m not saying there aren’t viable alternatives: personally I’m a big fan of the cooperative. At this point though, we’ve chained ourselves to a chair and the stove is leaking gas. I suppose one solution is to light a match, but…

  • http://djtrudeau.wordpress.com djtrudeau

    As bad as the recession has been, I haven’t seen evidence that it’s changed anyone’s thinking about consumer goods. I don’t even know if it’s changed people’s attitudes towards credit as much as it should. I don’t know what “atom bomb” level crisis would do that, but until it does, I think we’ll continue to see an increase in service positions that don’t pay as well as the manufacturing jobs they’re replacing.

    The only thing that may break the deadlock is a business that creates new industry and pay standards the way the automotive industry did in the early twentieth century. That’s where the idea of paying employees more and increasing their leasure time leads to a growing economy came from. I don’t know if we have anything on the horizon at that level. Energy maybe?

  • Barbara Kiviat

    That’s an interesting way to think about it.

  • http://rodgermmitchell.wordpress.com Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

    Neo-chartalism says the federal government should be the employer of last resort. I disagree and your argument about low paying jobs is part of the reason.
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    In The GAP, I suggest that unemployment (and low pay) actually are symptoms, not fundamental problems, and curing symptoms does not have lasting effect.
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    I suggest the government should be the educator of first resort, not the employer of last resort.
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    Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

  • pkwynn24

    I work in a grocery store and we just had our contract renewed. Even though we make more than the minimum wage we have no had a raise in the last 5 years and with the growing cost of things many families are unable to maintain their homes and lifestyles. Our benefits have been stripped and new hirees will be paid significantly less… whats the point of having a union nowadays..

    Adventures of grocery clerks

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  • jschmittwdc

    This post and Richard Florida’s piece in the Financial Times raise many important issues. One of the most important –and one that we stress in Low-Wage Work in the Wealthy World (cited above)– is that improving the quality of low-wage work is usually the result of a mutually reinforcing policies that encourage employers to choose the economic “high road.”

    As this post notes, in the five European countries we studied, pay was generally low and the working conditions were far from ideal for hotel room cleaners –a situation we also see here in the United States. Two important reasons for this were (1) the low level of unionization (relative to workers in other industries in Europe) and (2) the relatively lax enforcement of national labor laws in this sector (possibly related to the relatively high concentration of immigrant workers, women and young people in the industry). Low unionization and minimal (and minimally enforced) labor standards are, of course, also features of the US labor market.

    What we also found, though, was that even among hotel room cleaners, European workers generally had benefits such as paid sick days, paid vacation days, and even paid parental leave that were guaranteed by national labor law. The European hotel workers were also much more likely than their US counterparts to have some control over their schedule –regular enough to allow them to organize steady child-care, flexible enough to allow them to deal with family emergencies. And, essentially all of the room cleaners had access to free or low-cost, high quality health care.

    –John Schmitt (co-editor, Low-Wage Work in the Wealthy World)

  • rcbusicaolcom

    It would be hard to gain wage growth with a national policy of letting all immigrants work here, like we have now. I went into a trade 30 years ago and the wage has not risen with the 30 years of experience. I am worth no more than I was with 4 years experience. With inflation I am worth what I was when I started.
    Of course if the economy was working I would be worth what I was worth 25-26 years ago, but it is not. It is working on Wall Street and K Street but Main St. is still forgotten. This is because banks do not need to operate as banks anymore they gain profit from derivatives. They are betting government insured dollars equal to the gross annual product of the world in a nonexistent set of goods. I was amused by the fact that the present depression was not noticed by Wall St. or the Federal Government until Fannie Mae fell (McCain swore the economy was fine two days earlier). Most working Americans knew years earlier. There truly is a beltway mentality that insulates the government from the realities of our great country.
    The labor movement will have a harder time swinging the pendulum back with the likes of Fox News and the politicians who claim to be “Conservative” (are they conserving the economic downturn now?). But the pendulum will swing back ity allways does and the longer it takes the worse it will be for the ruling class. Remember the French revolution? Sooner or later the Stupid Conservatives from impoverished backgrounds will figure it out. Someday their children will be hungry and the schools will not be able to pretend that they provide an education anymore.
    The Vets from WW1 never got the chance for economic freedom; they were used by the “Robber Barons” unmercifully. Then came the depression, then came laws to protect the citizen from the banking industry. Laws to keep children from working, Laws to protect American goods and laws to protect retirement funds. Into this the “Greatest Generation” was born. Had they known that the foundation of their success was to be undermine they might have fought those efforts like they did the Germans and Japanese. Alas they were fooled by what passes as Conservatism.
    Lincoln said it best “Capital is subservient to Labor”. Someday it will be again. For the working families of America, the sooner the better.

  • bacotawordpress

    I am entering middle age with a growing suspicion that we in America have made a erred in embracing the “profit motive” without reservation.

    I have a good job and an income many people would envy. Well, to be honest, I often hate my job, but when i talk to new hires about the places where I’ve worked before I realize why I’ve been here so long …

    My bosses do *not* try to maximize their profit. It’s an odd thing, but it’s true. I work for a private company in a competitive field run by people who are *not* trying to squeeze every stinking dime out of their customers or their workers. There are still politics, people still get laid off if business is bad and people get fired if they don’t perform well. But when times are good *everybody* gets a bonus and when times are bad they try to save everybody’s job. A long time ago, he told me he wanted to have a business that he’d want to work for.

    So I reflect on this, and the financial crisis, and the BP fiasco, and I am starting to think that maybe greed is *not* good. Could it be that greed is actually bad?

    Apropos, anybody who has not watched “The Corporation” should do so: http://www.thecorporation.com

  • deconstructiva

    Thanks, Barbara, excellent post. Yes, it will be difficult to change employment mindsets, if possible, but we can try. Strictly IMHO, I’m betting one change is brewing: employers choosing to squeeze employees, fire them en masse (“layoffs” may have a legal difference from getting fired, but no difference in reality), and otherwise treat them like crap will pay for their actions. In next recovery, many people will quit for better jobs (or at least try). Employee turnover is expensive, so current cost-cutting could end up costing more later, literally.
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    Certainly for now, Barbara, private job training doesn’t work well, as some of your past posts / loyal reader replies have mentioned. Where are the guaranteed jobs after graduation? Maybe apprenticeships can come back big time: get paid to train for new work and have a permanent job lined up when done. Rebuilding a work force that sticks around awhile (in both good and bad times) could be a long-term mindset to aim for.

  • http://rodgermmitchell.wordpress.com Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

    Barbara, apparently your post was an invitation to class warfare. The underclass always is resentful of the wealthy, and attributes all of society’s ills not to their own shortcomings, but to plots and manipulation by the rich.
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    The fact is, the world has changed, and the computer changed it. The person who complains that he’s been in a trade for many years, and has not seen pay increases, should be thankful his trade still exists. In the future, there will be no trades as we know them.
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    Whether you are a farmer, an painter, a ditch digger or an accountant, you can be sure someone is thinking of ways to eliminate your job. Ultimately, what we know as “blue collar” and lower levels of “white collar” will disappear.
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    Years ago, people could not imagine a world without blacksmiths, gas station attendants, railroad workers, cowboys, farm hands, telephone operators, wagon builders and cell animation artists. Today, most of those jobs are done by machines.
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    Education is the solution for the future. The government should pay, not only for elementary and high school, but also for college and beyond. See: EDUCATION
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    Those people with ambition will grab onto education. Those without ambition will whine about the rich.
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    Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

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