The Perilous Problem of the Persistently Jobless

For a time now my editor Rick Stengel has been asking the question: Why won’t unemployment stay at around 10%. That is to say, even after the economy pulls out of the recession how do we know that unemployment won’t remain where it is today. Perhaps 10% is the new 5%, when it comes to unemployment. We have afterall outsourced many of our manufacturing jobs and some of our service jobs to China, India and elsewhere. So if we make a lot less than we used to and do a lot less than we used to, whose to say that unemployment won’t remain stubbornly high, no matter which way the economy is headed.

My response a year ago or so ago when Stengel started to ask the question was because it can’t. I majored in Economics and know from my classes that the long-run frictionless rate of unemployment in the economy is about 5%. Once the economy got a kick-start, that’s where the jobs numbers would be headed again rather quickly.

Well it turns out, for now, editor knows best. We are probably six months or more into the economic recovery and the rate of unemployment has remained stubbornly high. And now others are starting to ask the same question Stengel was asking a year ago: What stops unemployment from staying higher than we have experienced before? And what happens? Well it ain’t pretty. Here’s why:

You may wonder why I and others are writing about unemployment now. Last month’s jobs report actually showed a drop in the unemployment rate. Wasn’t that good news. Not exactly. In fact, the drop was mostly due to people giving up on looking for work. Worse, the job report showed that the time it is taking for people to find a job continues to go up. Almost half of all out of work Americas have been without a job for 6 months or more.

In an editorial in the WSJ, PIMCO’s Mohamed El-Erian points out some of the problems with persistently high unemployment

First, persistently high unemployment erodes the skills of any labor force, especially when joblessness is a big problem among the young. This reduces future productivity and growth potential.

Second, a high rate of joblessness puts pressure on inadequate social safety nets like the unemployment benefit system. It also exacerbates the strain on government budgets already stretched at both the federal and state levels.

Third, stubbornly high unemployment makes those who are employed more cautious. By spending less, they aggravate the economic slowdown.

And finally, high unemployment has historically induced companies and countries to become more inwardly oriented. Many firms have already moved to a “self-insurance” mode, including holding large cash balances rather than investing in equipment and hiring people.

The first two points are ones I touched earlier in the year in an article about why teen unemployment is a worse economic problem than you think. But the second two problems are ones I haven’t heard before and could very well be contributing to our slow recovery. My only problem with that logic is that wouldn’t that be the case every time. Yet, somehow after every other recession the unemployment rate has dropped. So why is this time different?

Nonetheless, El-Erian really falls flat when he gets into his solutions.

Instead of simply debating the case for further government stimulus, policy makers should also come up with a comprehensive strategy that focuses on improving human capital, particularly through a greater emphasis on education and training; expanding infrastructure and technology investments, in part by creating a more friendly tax system; encouraging a bigger translation of scientific advances into economy-wide productivity gains; and better protecting the most vulnerable segments of society.

I’m not even really sure what that last part means. Job training sounds nice and it probably won’t hurt, but the problem is there are few studies that show job training actually lowers unemployment or raises incomes. Business tax cuts on the other hand to boost growth is a really bad idea. Cutting taxes is exactly how we got into the current budget mess. And driving up our debt further by reducing revenue will only make it more likely that we will have higher interest rates, and slower growth. What’s more, as Felix Salmon correctly points out productivity doesn’t seem to be the answer either. Remember, the fastest way for companies to boost productivity is to fire workers, and make the rest of us do more.

What’s more, productivity improvements don’t necessarily result in higher wages for the less-skilled: they’re just as likely to result in greater returns to capital, as owners extract more profits from the business, or else to result in the jobs going to better-educated workers instead.

So what should we do about lowering long-term unemployment? Salmon runs through a number of other proposals out there in a very good follow-up post called Attacking Unemployment. Andy Grove of Intel fame would like the government to be more protectionist and increase tariffs. And CJR’s Audit blog finds a lot to like in Grove’s argument.

Look, it’s no accident that the era of corporate dominance has coincided with a hollowing out of the American labor force, and free trade is one part of a multifront war on labor that has included a concerted attack on unionization and lax immigration enforcement.

Free trade for the modern “American” multinational is about arbitrage: Environmental arbitrage. Labor arbitrage. Regulatory arbitrage. Tax arbitrage. Hell, press arbitrage. You think Apple and Dell and all those folks would have been able to keep their atrocious working conditions (yes, I’m considering companies responsible for their outsourced labor) as hidden in the U.S. as long as they did with Foxconn in China?

If you follow it to its logical conclusion, the stagnation of American workers’ wages won’t stop until it reaches a sort of equilibrium with those of workers in countries like Indonesia.

Economist Michael Hudson would like to see income taxes drop and property taxes increase. That way people would spend less on housing and consume more, boosting the economy. Of course, weren’t rising housing prices a key driver of consumption in the late 2000s. So I’m not sure Hudson can have it both ways.

Barbara Kiviat took a stab at the question of how to create jobs a few months ago with her cover story and what she found was that it is really hard to do, especially for government:

The cold truth of the matter, though, is that there’s not much Washington can do to gin up permanent jobs on such short notice. The federal government is a key player in engendering job growth in the long term — by establishing smart policy in areas such as trade, education, immigration, health care, energy, infrastructure and taxes — but over the course of months or even a few years, there’s little it can effectively do besides hiring directly or stepping in as a buyer of goods and services.

For me, I like the suggestion of trying to better leverage taxpayer money that David Leonhardt made earlier this week in his regular NYT column. As the energy program showed, making grants to companies to get them to invest seems to work. And we could start a series of public-private investment partnerships with the goal of boosting jobs. Companies get money to research and develop and expand as long as they pledge to keep the jobs that money helps create on American soil for a reasonable amount of time, say a decade. At that point ship them overseas. By that time hopefully, our public-private partnerships will have had time to create other jobs and open up new opportunities.

The problem with this approach is that it is very costly. As we have seen with Cash for Clunkers and the homebuyer tax credit, a lot of money ends up going to people or in this case companies that would have spent money on R&D anyway. And that may be the true bottom line on creating jobs: No matter what you do, it ends up being a very costly proposition.

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  • Ffred

    I think we should revive the Civilian Conservation Corps and work on repairing our national infrastructure, including utilities, bridges, roads, and railroads. At least that would be money well invested.

  • megatronrises

    Thanks for this great article!

  • economicsfordemocrats

    Again, this is a monetary crisis! “When money flows, we grow and when it stops we flop.” Investment in new firms and by old firms is one of the major factors in solving the under and unemployment. Businesses individuals do not want to invest when the economy is not doing well. Then our narrow commercial banking system is hoarding all the capital given to it by the Fed. for the same reason and for survival purposes.
    This under diversified banking system as never been able to delivery monetary policy without causing these recessions/depressions and bubbles.
    One solution is to delivery new money through a diversity of private and public systems using both debt and/or equity instruments. This diversity creates employment and competition which reduces the need for excessive regulation.
    Please review venture capital banking under monetary reform at http://www.progressive-economics.com.
    This is not the solution for firms moving to extremely cheap-slave labor countries increasing U.S. unemployment and reducing the number of quality customers/clients.

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  • tlesinski

    Problem: consumer spending is insufficient to spur growth, while low- and middle-class incomes are subject to downward pressure from a number of factors, including global wage competition.

    Solution: decouple income from wages. This is what happened with the housing boom, however at great cost to the population and long-term economic outlook in terms of unsustainable debt. Alternative option: negative income tax. Make it such that everyone starts about the poverty level and fix a flat tax rate on income so that the budget is balanced. Just pay people in the lower third or so of the income distribution to work for (dirt) cheap.

    So ok, the top earners will probably end up paying 50% actual tax. So what ? Don’t give me the “fleeing capital” line, the big problem (and partly the origin of the current mess) is that there is *too much* sitting capital for the financial system to absorb, and not enough spending to create investment opportunities in the real economy and put it to work creating jobs. We need to redistribute income from people who save it (rich) to people who spend it (everyone else).

    The current taxation scheme is not only unfair, it is inefficient. Am I the only one for whom this makes sense ?

    Another option: redistribute by providing free (paid by progressive taxes) and efficient public services. But, well, in the current political climate…

  • mimsyborogoves

    Stephen, you wrote: “Business tax cuts on the other hand to boost growth is a really bad idea. Cutting taxes is exactly how we got into the current budget mess.”

    What U.S. tax laws make it unattractive for companies to manufacture products in the U.S. or employ U.S. workers? Are there hidden taxes in the form of an expensive and inefficient healthcare system that make us uncompetitive? Is the playing field not level due to foreign government subsidies or tariffs or less-rigorous enforcement of safety and environmental regulations?

    The problem is not 5% unemployment versus 10% employment. The problem is that our real unemployment rate is closer to 20%. We need to fix this soon or ask ourselves if the value of “free trade” is worth its terrible price.

  • meg1212

    Re: “The Perilous Problem of the Persistantly Jobless.” “Persistently” is the correct spelling. Hire a proofreader.

  • Stephen Gandel

    Why? You come cheap. Nice catch. Thanks.

  • http://twitter.com/poniewozik James Poniewozik

    …and the jobless recovery continues.

  • oizydoizy

    “My only problem with that logic is that isn’t that be the case every time.”

    Seriously, hire a third-grader to proofread your stuff. Help put a dent in that youth unemployment problem.

    Furthermore when posing questions like this (and several others):

    So why is this time different.

    end it with a question mark, why don’t you?

  • snarfangel

    tlesinski, to expand on your idea a bit, the $787 billion stimulus would have been enough to give every working American a $2.50/hr raise for a year (40 hours per week, 50 weeks per year, and 150 million Americans in the labor pool, yields a total of $750 billion). If Congress had passed a $2.50 an hour wage subsidy, while at the same time reducing the federal minimum wage from $7.25/hr to $4.75/hr during the same period, it would have done more to help the overall economy than all of the Congressional pork projects put together.

    *CAUTION: MATH AHEAD*

    Or you could decide to go all out, and guarantee a minimum basic income for all Americans in productive employment. First, let’s assume we want a full-time worker to make at least the poverty line. Full time is 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year, or 2080 hours per year. The poverty level for a single person is $10,830 (2008-09). So let’s round up to $5.21 per hour. With that wage guaranteed, you could remove the federal minimum wage law altogether.

    Now, the overall median wage for full-time employment is roughly four times the poverty line — Wikipedia says $39,509 for workers aged 25-64. So a flat tax of $10,830/$39,509 or 27.4% would just about pay for it (ignoring overhead and using the taxes for any other purpose of government). Since you actually want to pay for government services, you could set the flat tax rate at an even 50%, as you mentioned, using the difference to pay for other functions of government.

    Those on the right side of the aisle get the flat tax and no minimum wage that they want, those on the left get the wage guarantee and seriously progressive *actual* tax rates they want (below the median wage, the rate is effectively negative). Everyone should be happy. (Okay, the last sentence is facetious.) On a more serious note, a wage subsidy for Americans should boost employment, while at the same time lessening tensions caused by outsourcing and illegal immigration — neither group would be eligible for the wage subsidy, while everyone in the United States regardless of immigration status would be required to pay the flat tax.

  • economicsfordemocrats

    You have some good concepts. I have a couple of comments:

    1. Your overall theme is” trickle up versus trickle down” macroeconomics.
    2. Remember the Federal National Debt is never paid off! The Fed creates money by moneratizing the debt and pays it off (retires it).
    3. We do have a negative progressive income tax. Many don’t pay and get $ back from the earned income tax credit. A more practical reform is of the regressive payroll tax (FICA).
    4. Your use of the term redistribution. It has a lot of negative cognitions. I use the term recirculation. Businesses (Capitalists) get it right back through spending.
    5. Global Wage Competition is a good description and difficult to solve the vast disparity which reduces the number of quality customers/clients/consumers. The solutions that I can think of is tariff changes, labor unions and the creation of a Quality Customer Minimum Wage.

    You might want to review my essay on the Principles of Progressive Economics on my site.

  • tanboontee

    5% or 10%, whatever it is, avoid playing with numbers, especially percentages, for they often mislead and they hurt.

    Already 6 months into recovery, I doubt. Somehow, economists can talk loud, but hardly clear.

  • qqi239

    1. Print more dollars: cut taxes and borrow as long as there are willing lenders, it will move a lot of manufacturing back into US and will reduce debt/GDP ratio to manageable levels as a side effect.

    2. Ease regulatory environment and encourage greed: good manufacturing jobs are provided only by big bad air and water polluting corporations run by greedy bastards.

    3. Look up corner cases, e.g. allowing US businesses to hire software free-lancers without 20 idiotic questions from IRS will move back to US quite a few very good jobs in software development and IT.

    4. End idiotic war on drugs, which is a huge burden for the economy among other things.

    5. Stop maintaining the world order: (a) US it way too civilized by now to effectively do it, (b) it is unmaintainable: people did not get any smarter in the last 100 year, but firearms became 1000 times cheaper.

    It all seems pretty trivial?

  • http://stephenreal.wordpress.com stevereal

    .I want to get me some Chinese slaves too! At 33 cents an hour on average for pay for a Chinamen, why should Apple, Honda and GM have all the slaves to themselves? I want my Chinese slaves too you know. At that rate I could buy ten thousand slaves and set myself up like a King in Shanghai. Slavery is in man! Everybody’s doing it! So why can’t I?

  • bacotawordpress

    air and water pollution can cost us more than the jobs are worth if we’re not careful (and we usually aren’t).

    Other than that I agree with you :)

  • bacotawordpress

    OK, I just have to ask .. it is just me or has anybody else ever noticed that in almost any organization about 10% of the employees seem to be useless? The percentage seems to go down a bit with smaller organizations and way up in large corporations.

    Is it conceivable that 10% unemployment is just about right? :) I doubt it, but I have to ask.

  • dochosvet

    It would seem the editor with what ever non business degree and a certain amount of common sense is way ahead of most of the economic experts. I would also agree with #13 that in any business including my own one man business, there is a certain amount of wasted time and production but who wants to work steady and hard for a solid eight hours. I don’t and don’t. And as Kiviat says there is not really much the gov can do to make jobs in the free market. The government can make parks, trails, roads, bridges etc but that just increases the debt. And for me in my semi retirement years my debt or Uncle Sam’s is scary. So for me the only solution is to live with in my means and wait for things SLOWLY improve and try to save a bit at the same time. 5%, 10% or 20% just keep hanging there individually.

  • vbierschwale

    Sounds to me like you should listen to your editor and forget what you learned about economics in college because everything they are teaching is wrong because they apparently quit teaching people how to think for themselves.

    Think about it.

    Everybody will tell you that unemployment will go down because it always has, and at the same time everybody ignores the very simple fact that there is one thing different now that has never existed before and that is the offshoring of jobs to find ways around the sweatshop laws that were implemented here about 100 years ago, and like you, or perhaps it was Andy Grove, I believe these firms such as Apple should be held accountable for violating these laws.

    Like you and everybody else, I too thought that this economic crisis started in the fall of 2008, and I guess I wanted to believe that rather then face the facts that layoffs were at an epidemic level in 2001, yet our media never even made an issue of it to the best of my knowledge.

    For instance, I documented this recently in this short article that you can read at the following link

    http://keepamericaatwork.com/?p=9009

    At first I couldn’t understand why we hadn’t heard about all these layoffs and then I remembered I had discovered this back when I wrote the following report when trying to figure out a way to make a living for myself when I could find no job and you can read that at the following link

    http://keepamericaatwork.com/?p=1130

    As for how to fix the problem of unemployment, it is very simple.

    1. We need to document which publicly traded corporations are sending our jobs offshore and we do that my changing the quarterly and annual reporting requirements to require that these publicly traded corporations report the number of jobs broken down by state and country and the amount of payroll that was paid for each of these states and countries and it would be nice if we were to require them to break it down even further by temporary or permanent employees so that we could cover contract labor and consultants.
    2. We then start educating the public about the findings of these reports because peer pressure will take care of the problem once people realize that it actually exists and why it exists and who is responsible for the fact that they cannot find work.

    Virgil
    http://www.KeepAmericaAtWork.com

  • Ffred

    I couldn’t help thinking of the “Perils of Penelope Pitstop”

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