How Much Might Goldman Sachs Have To Pay?

The Securities & Exchange Commission on Friday sued investment bank Goldman Sachs for defrauding investors. It could severely damage Goldman’s reputation and a settlement, if it happens, could be very expensive.

The sheer spectacle of the U.S. Government charging Wall Street titan Goldman Sachs with civil fraud has been enough to rattle the financial markets and send Goldman’s shares reeling. At midday, the investment bank’s stock was down more than 12% and the price of put options on Goldman shares (bets that the stock will keep declining) were up dramatically. But beyond the organizational earthquake that has just been unleashed at Goldman— possibly damaging its reputation for years to come— how much money might it actually have to fork over?

Whether the case goes to trial or is settled out of court, the fines and penalties could be steep if Goldman is found at fault. At first blush it’s just pocket change for the giant investment bank, which had revenues of $51 billion last year. The $15 million fee that Goldman earned for putting together the now infamous CDO security known as ABACUS 2007-AC1 (ABACUS) will surely be disgorged if it loses at trial or reaches a settlement, and it could easily be tripled as part of the penalty.

But the SEC could also cast a wider net when considering what Goldman should pay, and if the case goes to trial the discovery process could reach far and wide in tallying damages. The SEC charge against Goldman says that “The Commission seeks injunctive relief, disgorgement of profits, prejudgment interest, and financial penalties.” According to a government source familiar with the SEC investigation, among the possible considerations under that broad umbrella is the billion dollars lost by investors in this CDO.  This is not a certainty, but nor is it without precedent. When the SEC settled with Citigroup and UBS over auction-rate securities in December 2008, part of the settlement was that the firms had to buy back the securities that they had sold to investors— at the original prices. The settlement ran into the many billions of dollars.

If Goldman has to buy back its securities that could get expensive. Investors in Abacus lost a billion dollars as the security was downgraded, according to the SEC suit. Conceivably, penalties could make that payout even larger.

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  • http://rodgermmitchell.wordpress.com Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

    These folks don’t care about fines. What they fear is jail time. Only when the top brass goes to jail, will this make an impression on them.

    Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

  • kevyfresh

    I guess the Government needs to blame someone for their own mistakes…..

  • markkuperberg

    There is a God

  • http://erieangel.wordpress.com erieangel

    The only mistake the government made in leading up to the financial mess was deregulation–which Wall Street wanted on the false claim they would regulate themselves. Yeah, we saw how well that worked.

  • markkuperberg

    Right, the financial meltdown was the government’s fault. If you believe that, I own a bridge in Brooklyn that I would be happy to sell you.

  • deconstructiva

    …and Blankfein is doing His work.

  • atmaweapon42

    This provides an amazing opportunity to the fledgling Peer to Peer lending model struggling to gain traction. Prosper secured a round of investment today. Companies like that could become the kings of the banking industry if Goldman doesn’t shape up and quit bilking investors.

    http://pushaside.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/a-company-to-watch-prosper-could-start-a-new-war-on-banking-industry/

  • bvilleyellowdog

    Excellent. Bankrupt a few companies, but their management team and perhaps their board in jail… that will get their attention.

  • bvilleyellowdog

    Are you Mitch (the shill) McConnell?

  • nycesq

    Lets get real. Goldman will pay a few billion in fines and its employees will get their usual absurd bonus payments while you and I work for peanuts.

  • blackpope

    hmm…I think the SEC is off base on this one. A company has every right to take as many opposing positions as they want to. It’s the investors responsibility to examine what they are buying!!! Pretty much all they did was be smart and speculated that the ratings on the mortgages were off.. the investors should have done their homework. Do we punish people for being smart. It could have gone the other way round and they could have lost money.

  • gum0nshoe

    That’s great, but as long as someone gets away with it and the government doesn’t go out to fix this, this is just janitorial clean up. In 10 years, we’ll be doing the same thing with new players.

    This doesn’t negate the need for reform, and I think this will only lead to PR make up to smooth over that issue.

    “You sued us, what else could you want! The system works!” Such a statement ignores that the system broke to begin with and probably will again, but I believe we’ll see it anyway.

  • jvmfan

    I just saw a movie on Sunset Blvd. called “Stock Shock” about all this Wall Street corruption and the audience was pretty shocked. It was the same story told through the eyes of Sirus XM investors that nearly went broke because of market manipulation. The movie is now sold on DVD just about everywhere, but cheaper at http://www.stockshockmovie.com

  • xandersun

    Better to blame the banks than George W. Bush?

  • 404errorreboot

    Much would depend on whether GS misrepresented the sale or is lacking in its fiduciary duties. Lack of disclosure could be a problem.

    I am sure SEC much have grounds before taking on GS. One must remember that those were heady days and a few questionable deals might have made it through.

    Perhaps it is a way to open inflict a small wound and let the sharks do the rest.

  • http://knight1743.wordpress.com knight1743

    The hedge is not the problem here. The problem was that Goldman Sachs sold the CDOs without disclosing all the relevant information to potential buyers. . . in this case, someone chose the securities in the portfolio and then shorted against it. Its like buying a house with the help of your real estate agent, but your real estate agent doesn’t tell you that he/she also works for the seller and then knowingly hides from you the fact there is a major leak in the basement.

  • ndolan622

    I sincerely hope the fine is large enough that it knocks them down a peg or two! Maybe then they will think twice about jeopardizing the well-being of the American people for their own selfish gain!

  • sdansker

    I am absolutely amazed that some irate investor that lost his/her life savings hasn’t sought revenge from these crooks. I haven’t heard one word about an investor (except in Madoff’s case) who has come out and caused one of these bank chiefs mental distress of one kind or another. In fact, they, to this day, even rake in billions. Maybe the mob doesn’t know who to go after. I’m simply amazed.

  • http://popham5.wordpress.com popham5

    Gosh, the Fed sure has been busy this week.
    1. A raid on an Arizona bus company, which transports
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    Go get ‘em.
    2. The SEC filing suit against Goldman. This was particularly interesting, since Wall Street donated
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    this week.

  • waltwriston

    Oh the joys of being a “white collar” criminal! I say put the fines directly against the CEO, CFO, COO etc… and not the charge it off on the firm. Only when these people have to pay out-of-pocket will they learn and it would have a rippling effect all through the FIRE industry and prison as well wouldn’t hurt, and not one of them country club type prisons I’m talking Sing-Sing or Rikers Island.

    I remember reading a book by Martin Mayer called: The Greatest Ever Bank Robbery: The Collapse of the Savings and Loan Industry that said it’s the lack of personal loss (money) from the higher-ups that in times like these fritters ways resources that far surpass any planned economy. Guess this is why we have a “mixed economy”?

    “What’s the difference between owning a bank and robbing one”- Bertolt Brecht The Threepenny Opera

  • waltwriston

    I couldn’t resist myself. “Money is the god of our time, and Rothschild is his prophet.”- Heinrich Heine. It’s rather amazing how obscure this insanely rich dynastic banking family is now a days.

    PBS has a good 4 part show on the history of money called: The Ascent of Money by Niall Ferguson.

  • emkay007

    They were ‘Too big to be sued’ till now. Let us see whether this opens the floodgates of more such suits.
    Hope also they are not panicked by the fall in share prices because of this and start saying ‘we can’t rule against Goldman because that would be calamitous to the stock market’.

  • waltwriston

    It wouldn’t surprise me at all if that does happen emkay007! It also wouldn’t surprise me at all that they (the CEO, CFO etc…) don’t have puts and shorts on GS through offshore brokerage accounts, and trust me these people have untraceable accounts some are probably SPV’s of GS in the Cayman islands. These people are so scandalous that I can imagine why they wouldn’t do that! Geez I thought banks were the most focused firms on reputational risk, but then again I bet they didn’t think they’d get caught either. Their motto probably is “It isn’t a crime until you’re caught!” And the hell of it is they’ll proably only get a memorandum of understanding i.e. a slap on the wrist.

  • emkay007

    Goldman and its top management could escape making its VP Fabrice Tourre, the fall guy.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=a_ysG6LiJgg4

    Goldman is known to short its own clients. When would an obscure Goldman dealer short Goldman itself to make money for himself ?

  • mpitt76

    Here’s a thought…

    Why doesn’t Goldman fork over $9 billion to New York State to dig us out of the hole it helped cause in the first place. That should be about a month’s profit or so….

  • waltwriston

    Well at least the VP’s parachute will be very golden. That’s sarcasm but nonetheless true. Is it just me or is the world of high finance the only industry to reward people for horrible performance? And that “pay Czar” on “The Street” is a bunch of smoke and mirrors the banks run this country! I feel so sorry for those people that got swindled by the banks and now have to face the “tyranny” of their credit report! I don’t think that this has ever gotten any attention? And, it is in my opinion a major issue. The system is pricing risk so high now that they’re out pricing people’s ability too pay thus exacerbating the problem. I ration market my arse! But I digress.

  • emkay007

    Goldman was aware long back that they were being probed and a suit might be filed against it.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a52BBUru4.hM&pos=4

    Any bet that Goldman has influenced the suit itself to include the VP, who will ultimately be the fall guy, allowing Goldman and its top management to escape with a fine only (if at all).

  • solus2sail

    I read another article stating that Paulson & Co. were going to walk away from this with their profits intact.
    I don’t understand the Gov not at least charging them with collusion with intent to defraud.
    Unless the Gov starts going after everyone involved in these dirty dealings justice will not be served.

  • http://topsy99.wordpress.com topsy99

    Because it is not possible to do due diligence on these products clients rely on Ratings Agencies and the integrity of the seller of the product. This issue is hugely damaging to Wall street and I can see an election win here for Mr. Obama.

  • pane242

    This gives new meaning to that NBA nickname “Lloyd B. Free”

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