The UK bank bonus tax

I’m sure somebody will eventually be able to convince me that this is a bad idea, but my initial reaction to UK Chancellor of the Exchequer Alistair Darling’s temporary 50% bank bonus tax is why the heck not? No, it won’t raise a huge amount of money (an estimated £550 million, which is about $900 million at today’s exchange rate). Yes, it will probably result in all sorts of economically inefficient tax-avoidance shenanigans. And yes, there’s a lot of populist pandering involved. But when you read a quote like this, from the FT, it all seems worth it:

“This is extreme victimisation,” said one senior investment banker. “A lot of people have been working their tails off, never seeing their families to try and fix the problems of the past and now they are being discriminated against. It just makes me want to quit the job.”

Discriminated against? These are people who work at companies that probably would have ceased to exist if it hadn’t been for government bailouts in the U.K. and U.S. Many of them do work their tails off, but they get paid staggeringly large sums of money for it. They still have jobs, in an industry that has shed thousands of them. They are not in even the remotest sense victims. I guess we’ll find out soon if they’re quitters.

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  • jomiku

    The other obvious point is many of these people have no idea what other professions make. Do they think they’ll move into some job with an industrial corporation? They’ll be lucky to hit six figures. Some can move into other firms within the financial industry, but there’s only room there for some.

  • efirmage

    I’m sorry but I have little sympathy right now. The word “suffering” came up about 10 times in that article, but taxing bonuses and talking about suffering seems a little dramatic. The 10-17% (depending on how you define unemployment) of unemployed people are the ones who are suffering.

    Here in the US though I’d rather just see the rich taxed more. That accounts for all the variables.

  • pneogy

    Paul Volcker agrees:
    ““I wish someone would give me one shred of neutral evidence that financial innovation has led to economic growth — one shred of evidence,” said Mr Volcker, who ran the Fed from 1979 to 1987 and is now chairman of President Obama’s Economic Recovery Advisory Board. He said that financial services in the United States had increased its share of value added from 2 per cent to 6.5 per cent, but he asked: “Is that a reflection of your financial innovation, or just a reflection of what you’re paid?”
    http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article6949387.ece

  • bryanfromhouston

    Justin,
    Do you know anyone who can argue against Volker’s pronouncement today?
    .
    I am of the opinion that the man is correct on all counts and that the ATM is the greatest financial invention in the past several decades. :-)

  • WaltFrench

    How about a 75% tax on the value of bank shares?

    Last I checked the Corporate Governance literature, it is the shareholders who were bailed out after they elected Directors who directed only risks (and paid those directors handsomely, if not as obscenely as they paid their bag men).

    Pure setup for Moral Hazard the next time, as the shareholder incentives are to repeat, dodging whatever new regulations supposedly contain systemic risk next time ’round.

  • http://www.rodgermitchell.com Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

    I never have heard of any tax that has helped an economy. Every tax removes money from the economy, thereby slowing it.

    The idea that adding a tax somehow will benefit taxpayers, is silly.

    Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

  • mccartange

    I guess some people just need to touch the electric fence to get the point.

    In that light, I don’t really feel sorry for bankers either.

    Even if this is not a ploy to hide behind emotional distress (which I find ironic coming from this camp), people are not buying it anymore. Not seeing your family? Get in line.

    It’s time for our leadership to place PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY and hold people ACCOUNTABLE.

    Bravo Zulu to Alistair Darling, the first real LEADER to emerge out of this mess. I wish the US had such a person.

    I doubt this will be the last time either. This may be a blunt instrument, but for those in the industry claiming you are just a victom, ‘Caveat emptor.’

    Take heed: your industry is in a death spiral.

  • firstwestern1

    These bonuses should be taxed at a progressive rate up to 75%. How much money does one person need, anyway?

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  • http://www.rodgermitchell.com Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

    firstewestern1 says, “These bonuses should be taxed at a progressive rate up to 75%. How much money does one person need, anyway?”

    How will that help you? It will not put one penny in your pocket. How will that help the government? It will not add one penny to the government’s ability to spend, nor will it cut one penny from future taxes. Further, added taxes always hurt the economy.

    Class envy is a dangerous thing.

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