Six things I’m sure of about capital gains taxes

A certain Flip has declared that my post from last week about the Congressional Budget Office and capital gains taxes contained the “Worst Argument of the Day.” I’m totally honored, except that I didn’t actually make the argument for which he condemns me, which was that the decline in tax revenue from 2000 to 2004 was proof that capital gains tax cuts don’t increase revenue. (This would indeed have been a really stupid argument, given that the capital gains tax rate was cut in 2003.) I have argued that the decline in real capital gains tax receipts between the business cycle peak of 2000 and the likely peak of 2007 was perhaps an indication that the tax cut hadn’t paid its way. But that was a different blog post (and it wasn’t a stupid argument).

I guess I could just declare Flip’s post to be a case of the “Worst Reading Comprehension of the Day” and leave it at that. But this capital gains thing keeps nagging at me. There are a few things I feel confident saying about capital gains tax rates and government revenues:

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1) Revenues almost invariably go up the year a capital gains rate cut is enacted, which proves only that investors aren’t idiots. Who wouldn’t try to find a way to realize their gains right after a tax cut goes into effect rather than right before? It’s free money!

2) The general trend of U.S. tax receipts is upward, because the general trend of the U.S. economy is upward. Looking at revenues before a tax cut and after and declaring that, because the second number is bigger than the first, the cut paid for itself (this is a specialty of Stephen Moore‘s) is nonsensical. You have to make the case that revenue is higher than it would have been otherwise.

3) For the regular income tax, it’s not all that hard to get around this problem. Larry Lindsey makes the case in his book The Growth Experiment that the 1981 cut in the top marginal income tax rate from 70% to 50% (it’s now 35%) more than paid for itself, and I believe him. The Reagan income tax cuts as a whole certainly did not pay for themselves, though: From 1982 through 1989 (I figure it makes the most sense to lag by a year to give his policies a chance to take effect), personal income tax receipts rose at an inflation-adjusted average annual pace of 1.8%. From 1978 through 1981 (Jimmy Carter’s term, lagged by one year) they rose at an average annual pace of 4.9%. The difference is even more dramatic if you don’t lag by a year (1.8% vs. 6.5%).

4) Estimating what capital gains tax receipts might have been in the absence of a tax change is much harder because capital gains realizations, and thus capital gains tax revenues, are so volatile. They’re volatile because financial markets are volatile, and it’s really hard to sort out whether their ups and downs were affected by taxes or not. Those who claim that there’s strong evidence that capital gains tax cuts increase revenues are relying, whether they know it or not, on the assumption that pretty much the only thing that moves stock and bond and real estate prices is the capital gains tax rate. And that’s a mighty dodgy assumption.

5) This market volatility also makes it hard to claim with great confidence, based on the data, that capital gains taxes don’t increase revenue. So economists (by which I mean people with Ph.Ds in economics, not your Larry Kudlows and David Malpasses and Brian Wesburys) end up relying heavily on theoretical models. Those models tell them that capital gains tax rate cuts generally don’t increase capital gains tax revenue, which is what I was writing about in that CBO post. There’s no way to know for sure that this is correct, of course. But it is what you could call the scientific consensus. Even economists who really like capital gains tax cuts only go so far as to predict that under the right circumstances, at the tax rates we have in the U.S. now, a rate cut might generate enough extra capital gains to replace about half the lost revenue.

6) There is surely a capital gains tax rate above which revenues decline, and it’s probably significantly lower than the regular income tax rate at which such Laffer Curve effects ensue. But it’s higher than zero. There are those out there who argue that bringing the capital gains tax down to zero would cause such an explosion of economic activity as to pay for itself with increases in other tax revenues, less need for government programs, etc. There’s at least some basis for this argument in economic theory. But in economic reality, not taxing capital gains while taxing other income would cause most Americans (or at least most Americans who can afford tax lawyers) to get most of their income classified as capital gains. That’s what the private equity guys do now to take advantage of the differential between the 15% capital gains rate and the 35% top income tax rate. The way to get around this would be to move to a pure consumption tax like the FairTax, but let’s not get into that here.

Now I don’t see how any reasonable person could contradict any of these six points. They don’t amount to an argument against cutting capital gains taxes, or taxes in general. But they do mean you’re being a joker if you claim–as Charlie Gibson did back in that Democratic debate that got me started on this whole argument–that when you cut capital gains tax rates, revenues go up. Gibson was a non-expert who I assume had simply been misinformed, possibly by the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal. But what’s up with the people who make a career of spouting this nonsense?

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  • That Anonymous Dude

    Justin, while I certainly appreciate the effort, arguing with idiots and cultists never gets you anywhere. Certainly bringing up SCIENCE wasnt going to help you.

  • Justin Fox

    True, but I think this is a case where there are a lot of innocent bystanders (like poor dear Charlie Gibson) who don’t understand that WSJ editorials on taxes are largely faith-based.

  • Flip Pidot

    Hi Justin, thanks for the link. And I hope you took my post header with the dash of hyperbole with which it was intended. On standardized tests, reading comprehension was never my strongest suit, but I endeavored to read your original post (and the referenced report) as thoroughly as I could manage.

    Re-reading your previous post in light of this one, I can’t reconcile the two.

    Here, you say, “I didn’t actually make the argument for which he condemns me…” My condemnation was: “…therein [in the CBO report data], Fox assures us, is proof that capital gains tax cuts officially do not increase tax revenues.”

    The title of your post alone, “The official word on whether capital gains tax cuts increase revenue (it’s no)” certainly cues the reader to brace for an iron-clad deductive argument to that effect (unless you’re also given to mildly hyperbolic titling).

    The offending phrase I concentrated on (part of what you called “the gist” of the report that was to support your argument) was, “…about half of the decline in tax revenue (as a share of GDP) between 2000 to 2004 was the result of the Bush-administration tax cuts.” My counter arguments were 1) that tax revenue as a share of GDP is a wholly inappropriate metric to use if you’re probing the validity of supply-side theory; the theory predicts and policy implications derive from the impact on absolute revenues, and 2) that your time window was off (as you note above, with the cap gains cut passing in 2003). In the only relevant year of that window (2004), we not only see tax revenues increasing, but even revenues as a percent of GDP increasing. And in the 3 following years, revenues grew another 44%.

    Further down this post, you’ve backpedaled do a lesser thesis – from Point 5: “…capital gains tax rate cuts generally don’t increase capital gains tax revenue, which is what I was writing about in that CBO post.”

    But that’s clearly not what you were writing about. You claimed (“officially”) that capital gains tax cuts don’t increase tax revenues. If there was any doubt, the report whose data you cite measured total individual income taxes, not just cap gains revenue. The point of cutting investment taxes is that they fuel business activity, which sews the seeds for corporate profit growth, job creation, higher wages, much of which makes its way to the government via regular income. The rebuttal to that, which you offer in Point 6, is another topic for debate, but my point is that the argument you’re claiming you made is not the one you actually made.

    Sorry to invade so much real estate on your blog with my lengthy comment.

  • Justin Fox

    @Flip Pidot: You’re welcome to invade as much real estate as you want. It’s just all that much more copy to sell ads against! ;-)

    I had actually seriously considered writing the headline on that post as “The official word on whether capital gains tax cuts increase revenue (it’s kinda sorta no),” or something along those lines. But it was long and clunky and I figured I’d get more response with a simpler, more declarative approach. And I really didn’t mean to imply any connection between the finding about tax receipts from 2000-2004 and the stuff on cap gains. But I did put ‘em in the same post, I’ll grant you that.

  • That Anonymous Dude

    @Justin
    media people do not qualify for innocent bystander status…

  • http://usbudget.blogspot.com/ bdavis

    The one point that I might disagree with is the first part of point 3. From the analysis that I did at http://home.att.net/~rdavis2/taxcuts.html, I saw no evidence that Reagan’s 1981 tax cut paid for itself. However, I admittedly did not attempt to split out the cut in the top marginal income tax rate from 70% to 50% from the rest of that tax cut. Also, I don’t expect the top marginal rate to go back to 50%, nor to I support that. Hence, it’s probably a moot point.

    I do agree that the main point is that you’re being a joker if you claim that when you cut capital gains tax rates, revenues go up. Until Gibson’s comments, I pretty much restricted myself to looking at the effect of income tax cuts on revenues. Capital gains are too volatile to be easily analyzed. That is due to the fact that they are, unlike wage income, easily moved from one tax year to the next and are heavily affected by the movement of the stock market. To hear several “jokers” make that claim based on simplistic logic as did Gibson and the Wall Street Journal editorial got me started as it did you. I posted on this at http://usbudget.blogspot.com/. Anyhow, thanks for writing on this issue.

  • smia1948

    One thing that *I’m* sure of is that it is a loser for both the economy as a whole and Federal Finances to tax away any money that would otherwise be reinvested in the private economy. (Most of the money collected by capital gains taxes has to fall into this category.) An analysis of the BEA “Produced Assets” numbers shows that private investment generates a *total* return (to workers, capital, and government) of about 33%/year real, while the Federal government can borrow at (at most) 2.9%/year real. Because the government has the lowest cost of capital of any entity, it is always in the government’s best interest to “put itself at the end of the line” and tax only consumption. A good example is to look at what happened to both GDP and government revenues in Ireland when it cut the corporate income tax rate to 12.5%. I believe that the electorate senses that it is a bad idea to tax capital and that this accounts for the strong popular support for repealing the Death Tax and moving to the FairTax.

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